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From: Richard Kahn Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 3:07 PM To: jeffrey E. Subject: Fwd: Working to resolution max just called my office line and this time i wisely did not =ick up you may want to call him..or i can send another =mail... Richard Kahn HBRK Associates Inc. 575 =exington Avenue 4th Floor New York, NY 10022 tel fax cell Begin forwarded message: From: =/b>Richard Kahn Subject: =/b>Re: Working to =esolution Date: =/b>April 6, 2018 at 10:58:37 AM =DT To: =/b>Max Kohlenberg not sure of your concern can you please provide more details.. thank =ou Richard Kahn HBRK =ssociates Inc. 575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor New York, NY 10022 tel fax cell EFTA_R1_01598349 EFTA02481852 On Apr =, 2018, at 9:05 AM, Max Kohlenber wrote: Rich - I'm afraid I don't agree =hat negotiating the amount the children will receive needs to be gotten =ut of the way first. I think the first step is to figure out =hich of the three alternatives that we've discussed are actually =iable. I am not concerned about Mass. law, but if a "carve off" =or the children can't be accomplished without triggering a retroactive =state tax (with interest and penalties) then it may be that the =nitrust (at some agreed rate) will be the only alternative worth =onsidering. I am looking into that (as I said) and I will also =alculate the tax cost if we do follow a course that results in loss of =he marital deduction, in case that cost turns out to be little enough =ot to dissuade us from an approach that triggers it. If my =oncerns turn out to be unfounded that will be great, of course, but =ome review of this issue at your end (whether by Beth Tractenberg or =ome other attorney trusted by Noam) would be helpful. As noted, given the children's concern that the money doesn't =un out during Noam's lifetime, I'd really like to see what the annuity =igures might be for a life annuity (as opposed to a fixed term =nnuity). That could be run assuming funding with $2M. =nbsp;The result would provide us with a baseline which we could scale =rom depending on what amount might actually end up being allocated to =he children. I am also following up with =oam's daughters, as noted. Max A. Max Kohlenberg Howland Evangelista Kohlenberg Burnett, LLP One =inancial Plaza — Suite 1600 Providence Rhode =sland 02903 Direct: Main: Fax: www.hekblaw.com This email and any attachments =hereto are intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and =ay contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If =ou are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby =otified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, =nd any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have =eceived this email in error, please immediately notify me by return =mail and permanently delete the original and any copy of this message =r attachment. Thank you. Original =essage From: Richard Kahn 2 EFTA_R1_01598350 EFTA02481853 Sent: Thursday, April =5, 2018 12:34 PM To: Max Kohlenberg Subject: =br class=""> the first issue is the amount that the =hildren will claim belongs to them. . lets get that =ut the way. I have taken you at your word as you said that =as definitely not the hold up as they only wanted to make sure the =ssets were there for noams lifetime. the annuity can be =ustom structured for a guaranteed 5 year 8 or 10 year payout, for =oam and his estate. the trust could buy the policy, no =iolation of mass law. I expect noam to receive 2 million dollars =f the 2.5 and the children can have the balance. we will need to =eal with the 500k note. Beth will join the litigation if =eed be, so no advice for the moment. Richard Kahn HBRK Associates Inc. 575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor New York, NY =0022 tel fax cell On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:28 =M, Max Kohlenberg Rich - I will =efinitely be in touch with any questions (today if I can). But a resolution today will not be possible. Harry is =onsidering the alternatives you've suggested, as am I. =nbsp;l will also want to review the alternatives with =oam's daughters. (As I have noted, although they =re not trustees they remain essential parties to any settlement.) rote: In addition to the =ubstantive pros and cons of each approach, I will also need to consider =he tax implications of the various alternatives that have been =uggested (annuity, unitrust or division/distribution), since we don't =ant any resolution to constitute an impermissible disposition of a =arital trust, as that would trigger very substantial Massachusetts and =ederal estate taxes, interest and penalties, based on the retroactive =isallowance of the marital deduction taken at the time of Carol =homsky's death. With respect to this aspect, if Beth Tractenberg =s already familiar with this case, perhaps we could have the benefit of =er insight on these issues? I would be grateful for that. With respect to the annuity alternative, I'm =ot entirely sure I understand the materials provided by Jarad Minsky. =n particular it's not clear to me whether the annuity illustration =hows a five year payout, with no further payments even if Noam is still =iving in 2023, or whether it illustrates a minimum five year payout =even if Noam dies during that time period). Would you have any =bjection to my speaking with Jarad directly to clear up that question =and perhaps others)? Thanks, 3 EFTA_R1_01598351 EFTA02481854 Max A. Max Kohlenberg Howland Evangelista =ohlenberg Burnett, LLP One Financial Plaza — Suite=1600 Providence, Rhode Island 02903 Direct: Main: Fax: www.hekblaw.com This email and any attachments =hereto are intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and =ay contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If =ou are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby =otified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, =nd any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have =eceived this email in error, please immediately notify me by return =mail and permanently delete the original and any copy of this message =r attachment. Thank you. Original Messa e From: =ichard Kahn • Sent: =hursday, Apri , . To: Max Kohlenberg Subject: I'm hoping for = resolution today . If you have any questions please lets =et a time to speak. Thank you Richard Kahn HBRK Associates =nc. 575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor New =ork NY 10022 tel fax cell On Apr 4, 2018, at 9:09 =M, Max Kohlenberg wrote: Thanks for this Rich. I will review it =and the prior email with attachments). I will get back to you =SAP with any questions. 4 EFTA_R1_01598352 EFTA02481855 A. =ax Kohlenberg Howland Evangelista Kohlenberg Burnett, LLP =ne Financial Plaza - Suite 1600 hode Island =2903 Direct: Main: Fax: www.hekblaw.com This email and any attachments =hereto are intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and =ay contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If =ou are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby =otified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, =nd any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have =eceived this email in error, please immediately notify me by return =mail and permanently delete the original and any copy of this message =r attachment. Thank you. Original Message From: Richard Kahn Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:15 PM To: Max =ohlenberg Subject: max: without noams approval: which i would =ndertake to get - we can do a guaranteed 5 year payout for the 2 =illion leave the balance for harry and sisters. if =oam passes the balance of the 5 year goes to his estate... =nbsp; easy Richard =ahn HBRK Associates Inc. 575 Lexington =venue 4th Floor New York, NY 10022 tel fax cell EFTA_R1_01598353 EFTA02481856 6 EFTA_R1_0 1598354 EFTA02481857