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From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 4:16 PM To: Bob Berwick Subject: Re: it will " evolve" ::)) On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:1= PM, Bob Berwick wrote: Jeffrey <=iv>So your view is that the social media jazz is a fad that will fizzle an= fade fairly soon, no? Bob On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:0= AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: i will spend all the time you like teaching you=about investing and the markets. simpler than it a=pears.. I would like chomsky to follow in the foot=teps of hibert, turing , and encourage work in their fie=s by presenting goals to the disciples. Hi Jeffrey, Ah very cool. So let me try a few out. =div> I guess it partly (! of course!) depends on how much we=get to stick into the box. I'm fine with prize money, mo=tly because as you know from Marvin, there's no way to g=t funding for "real" problems like these or those that Mar=in studies, nsf & darpa and toyota (as you just saw) only ca=e about self-driving cars. So I'd be overjoyed to get so=e way to fund new students.... Challe=ge 1. Discriminating language from noise. This is doable.=C2 Partha Niyogi nearly did it. A six-month effort. Challenge 2. Ah, depends on the sentences and what =E2 coherent' means. Does Noam mean 'screwed=up in some way'? We're not so far from that. Further than 1. That system I showed you that can isolate difft fa=tors in *syntax" as a small set of constraints can do some of th=t. Recall Shimon Ullman's 'rigidity principle =80 about the interpretation of points moving in the visual fi=ld - same coherence idea. EFTA_R1_01610323 EFTA02489677 Challenges 3 and 4 are =uch harder, we'd have to know more about 'meaning'=and 'inference'. I wouldn't be happy wit= statistical curve fitting here. Finally - though=l will drop this, because your time is too valuable and the problems you a=d Noam pose are the important ones, to me — what was you= estimate of how much that twitter-in-love entrepeneur would hav= lost if he did honestly follow his twitter-predictor during the=first week of this month? I guess I am still baffled about the =80 market" for their product unless it's as yo= say, the market for the new, shiny toys - which is just about salesmanshi=, not science. Anyway, I'll drop it - I was just c=rious as why/how any of that social media stuff would work. =AO I suppose they will say that they have 300 M users, not *all* of them w=ll be lying... and one can sort the liars from the non-lia=s....but so what? best wishes bob On Sep 5, 2015, at 8:20 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wro=e: noam, as always , spending=time . was great/ first draft. of the Chomsk= Challenge. . Produce a non- living system t=at can be put into an environment for a while and =-- 1. be able to discriminate language from noise= . prize . a 1 dollar bill signed by Noam =AO and 100k. . 2. be able to discriminate co=erent sentences from non ( we provide 10 test sentences=C2 ). prize a 10 dollar signed Chomsky bill , a=d 500k. 3. a language learning module. 20 dollar bill si=ned and 1 million, 4. a sense making module that can understand mean=ng inference. . etc. the non recommendation recomm=ndation. . ie =he student has a nice family. etc. a 100 dollar signed bill an= 10 million dollars. ? If your left leaning , is in confli=t with a money prize , we could su=stitute ---your prize money goes to charity,- =AO airline tickets to the Gaza strip. - Nicaragua, North Korea, . and 1000=blank ,protest placards ? or top prize includes 1000 =AO protesters of your choice for three demonstrations :) <=div> =AO please note The information contained i= this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged,=may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use =f the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclos=re or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly pro=ibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication =n error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to =a href="mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeevacation@gmai=.com, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, inc=uding all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved 2 EFTA_R1_01610324 EFTA02489678 =C2 please note The information contained in this co=munication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may c=nstitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the ad=ressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or co=ying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibitedand may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error,=please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com<P>, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including =11 attachments. copyright -all rights reserved 3 EFTA_R1_01610325 EFTA02489679