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From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 11:33 PM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: Re: is a first step to get a group together of people that mig=t add useful insights. . people you respect . though you might=disagree. maybe we pose the question to the group. =C2 re eyes, it seems that each sense should have both a transmitt=r and receiver, . scent. smell., hearing voice. , touch =ovement, sight -? , I think the eyes transmit info. =A0 my work on placebo showed video did not work, no explanation, =AO interrogators. use eyes to gauge truthfulness. But these are all cogniti=e interpretations of the (internal) output of the visual system. , -- not =ure what input is not- a cognitive interpretation.? why I like=the music work is that our brain must first deconstruct the chords. =ourier transform , or something like, it. then have a memory to know=whether the next two or three notes follow grammatically from the past few= On Sat= Aug 1, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Noam Chomsky wrote= Been on the road all day from the Cap= to Cambridge. Along with every other car in Mass. Glad you liked the paper. Since=Leonard Bernstein's Charles Eliot Norton lectures at Harvard about=40 years ago there has been interesting work seeking structural similarities between language and at least some musical traditions, mostly=western tonal. You might want to have a look. One of those doi=g the best work is my colleague David Pesetsky, a fine linguist and excell=nt musician. You're right that "re=ding the eyes" is a complex and fascinating topic, even extrapolat=ng gaze, the way infants do but probably not other animals. And famo=sly, staring into someone's eyes is far from neutral: either serious th=eat or real intimacy. But these are all cognitive interpretations of=the (internal) output of the visual system. It could be argued that the computati=ns involved in determining what we see are a central system, not just part=of a processing system. Hard to see how to pose that as a real empirical issue that can be tested. From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.comj Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 9:18 AM To: Noam Chomsky •M Subject: Re: Re: EFTA_R1_01613265 EFTA02491312 " processing" -my use of sloppy language=C2 , sorry, thanks for the great paper. =C2 music and its" understanding" , might be a clo=er representation to expressing a formalism that might help describe the e=ents. it is not an either , or , it is a superposition of melody, prosody, harmony, within cer=ain bounds that differentiate it from noise. fyi, in the paper it says the vis=on system is only input, .not sure that is corrrect. reading t=e eyes might have more to it than previously thought. On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Noam Chomsky There is a view that language is esse=tially a processing system. The arguments against it seem to me very power. I'll attach a recent paper about it, a =ontribution to a volume of essays dedicated to Jerry Fodor and focusing on=his conception of language as processing (input modules). His =ersion is far more sophisticated than the signal processing approaches that were all the rage in the 1950s, drawing from the successes=of wartime technology in signal analysis and Shannon's information=theory. Noam From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com) Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 7:34 AM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: Re: can it be thought of as no more than signal processi=g. why not use the same technology that attempts to intercept commun=cations and decode the signals and apply it to language. =C2 normally one tries to process the signals. i wonder if they put it i= reverse. and processed the language in an attempt to find coherence=??? On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Noam Chomsky =rote: There is a notion of coherence in bot= cases, but how to unify them, or whether it's possible, I don =80 t really see. From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com) Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 1:33 PM To: Noam Chomsky 2 EFTA_R1_01613266 EFTA02491313 Subject: Re: what i have been calling my sense making module. .=C2 visual sense, is the image coherent. / ? =A0 why dont you ask your young friends what they think the cho=sky questions should be. I will provide the reward On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Noam Chomsky > =rote: Marr's group, as you know, st=died edges, rigidity, etc. Those particular phenomena don't =eem relevant to language, except indirectly (as Marr and I in fact discussed often): th=re must be built-in systems that enter into language processing (including=determining grammatical status -- "legitimacy" =80 one property among many). That's what work on UG shoul= be about. Noam From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com) Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 12:59 PM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: I hope you have fun at the institute. 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