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From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 3:01 PM To: Bob Berwick Subject: Re: i will spend all the time you like teaching you about inve=ting and the markets. simpler than it appears.. =AO I would like chomsky to follow in the footsteps =C2 of hibert, turing , and encourage work in their fiels by prese=ting goals to the disciples. On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Bob Berwick ‹ > wrote: Hi Jeffrey, Ah very=cool. So let me try a few out. I guess it partly (! of course!) depends on how much we get to stick=into the box. I'm fine with prize money, mostly because =s you know from Marvin, there's no way to get funding fo= "real" problems like these or those that Marvin studies,<=div> nsf & darpa and toyota (as you just saw) only care about self=driving cars. So I'd be overjoyed to get some way to fun= new students.... Challenge 1. =Discriminating language from noise. This is doable. Partha=Niyogi nearly did it. A six-month effort. =div>Challenge 2. Ah, depends on the sentences and what 'cohe=ent' means. Does Noam mean 'screwed up in some w=y'? We're not so far from that. Further th=n 1. That system I showed you that can isolate difft factors in *syn=ax• as a small set of constraints can do some of that. in the visual field - same co=erence idea. Challenges 3 and 4 are much harder, =e'd have to know more about 'meaning' and =98inference'. I wouldn't be happy with statistic=l curve fitting here. Finally - though I will dro= this, because your time is too valuable and the problems you and Noam pose are the important ones, to me — what was your estimate =f how much that twitter-in-love entrepeneur would have lost if h= did honestly follow his twitter-predictor during the first week=of this month? I guess I am still baffled about the "market=E2 for their product unless it's as you say, the m=rket for the new, shiny toys - which is just about salesmanship, not =div>science. Anyway, I'll drop it - I was just curious as wh=/how any of that social media stuff would work. I suppos= they will say that they have 300 M users, not all of them will be lying=E2 and one can sort the liars from the non-liars....=ut so what? best wishes bob EFTA_R1_01609619 EFTA02489235 On Sep 5, 2015, at 8:20 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation=gmail.com» wrote: noam, as always , spending time . was =reat/ first draft. of the Chomsky Challenge.=C2 . Produce a non- living system that can be p=t into an environment for a while and --- =AO 1. be able to discriminate language from noise.. =AO prize . a 1 dollar bill signed by Noam and 100k= . 2. be able to discriminate coherent sente=ces from non ( we provide 10 test sentences ). =A0 prize a 10 dollar signed Chomsky bill , and 500k. =A0 3. a language learning module. 20 dollar bill signed and 1 =illion, 4. a sense making module that can understand meaning inferen=e.. etc. the non recommendation recommendation.=C2 . ie the stude=t has a nice family. etc. a 100 dollar signed bill and 10 mill=on dollars. ? If your left leaning , is in conflict with a=money prize , we could substitute<=pan> =C2 please note The informat=on contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-cli=nt privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only =or the use of the addressee. It is the property of HE Unauthoriz=d use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof =s strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this return e-mail o= by e-mail to j=evacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> , and destroy this communication and all copies =hereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved <hiv> 2 EFTA_R1_01609620 EFTA02489236