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Oo O DN OO FF WwW NY = NO RO PRP LP PNMO NO | S| S| |S FS FS S| S| | | no Bb WO NO F- ODO OO WDNnN DO OT BP WO NYO — 69 indicated to me, since he was being represented by very experienced legal counsel, that there was more than an insignificant risk of incriminating himself if he answered that. And so Jeffrey Epstein now had taken the Fifth. And one of the things that I was aware of having been involved in, you know, civil litigation and criminal litigation in other cases, once somebody refuses to answer a question like, you know: Do you know Mr. Dershowitz, and they take the Fifth on that, that you're then entitled to draw what's called an adverse inference. You can infer that, well, if they answered that question -- MR. SCAROLA: Excuse me. MS. McCAWLEY: Yeah, I want to make an objection here -- MR. SCAROLA: Pardon me. Could you please try to control your client who keeps jumping up and down and distracting everybody in the room? MS. McCAWLEY: Yeah, and there was also profanity used earlier. I mean, we just have to settle down on this side, take a deep breath, and let him answer his questions. MR. SIMPSON: Look, I mean, the same thing ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021892