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Oo O DN OO FF WwW NY = NO RO PRP LP PNMO NO | S| S| |S FS FS S| S| | | no Bb WO NO F- ODO OO WDNnN DO OT BP WO NYO — 73 And so I was stymied in trying to get information from Mr. Epstein at that point. I think there were two depositions, if I recall correctly off the top of my head, that I had an opportunity to review in which he took the 5th when asked questions about Dershowitz. So at that point in trying to figure out, you know, whether Mr. Dershowitz was involved in sexually abusing not only Virginia Roberts, but in other girls, then you go down to the next level, next layer of the criminal conspiracy. Epstein is at the top, so you go to the next layer. These are, you know, basically the women who, from what I could gather, were older than the age that Epstein wanted to sexually abuse. I think these were 22, 23-year-old girls, so they had, you know, essentially aged out of being his sexual abuse victims, but they continued to -- what they would do is collect girls for him under the age of 18, that I guess was in his target range. And so what -- so the next person I wanted to talk to, you know, and get information from was Sarah Kellen. Sarah Kellen is on a lot of these flight logs with, you know, these girls that -- or women and with Epstein and others, and so I wanted to talk to Sarah Kellen. ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021896