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James PATTERSON * * * 10:18 a.m. Q: Which of my clients are you swearing under oath encour- aged Virginia Roberts to include allegations of an encounter with you at the New Mexico ranch? : Both of them—both of your clients, both Judge Cassell and Mr. Edwards—were both involved in encouraging [their] client to file a perjurious affidavit that they knew or should have known was perjurious recently when they sought to file another defamatory allegation in the federal proceeding. - Was the arrangement such that what you are charging Brad- ley Edwards and Professor Paul Cassell with doing was sub- orning perjury? : Absolutely. If you ask me the question, I am directly charging Judge Cassell and Bradley Edwards with suborning perjury. | have been advised that Virginia Roberts did not want to mention me, told her friends that she did not want to men- tion me. And was, quote, pressured by her lawyers into including these totally false allegations against me. Yes, your clients are guilty of suborning perjury. - Who told you that Bradley Edwards pressured Virginia Rob- — ‘ erts into falsely identifying you? A friend of Virginia Roberts who called me out of the blue — and told me that she was horrified by what was happening to ~ me and that she recently had meetings with Virginia Roberts © and Virginia Roberts had told her that she never mentioned § me previously. That the lawyers pressured her into mention- 254 ing me. And mentioni me, yes. 10:20 a.m. Q: What was the name of A: Her name is—her first Q: ‘Yes. A: I don't know the last na Q: Did you attempt to find A: I have her last name wr Q: Where? A: It’s inmy—in my notes Q: When did you write Ret A: When she—when she f{ since you've asked me tk At first her husband ; would not give me their n had a series of phone cc please, to tell me their na they told me the story in g her name. She asked me her identity without her E her. Called her as recently I want to recall—I dc I called her twice last ni reveal her complete name and I will be happy to giv: top of my head. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_022151