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FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) -1 of 9- Ongtouu. Ream, Clone DencensPamnot nes fronts., ts. mimes • use to **sewn ...I FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 01/) 3/2021 , date of birth-, was interviewed at the FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION at 290 Broadway, New York, New York. Present for the interview was attorneys Brad Edwards and Brittany Henderson. Also present for the interview was Assistant United States Attorney- III and Special Agent-. After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: grew up in Astoria with her family; was the youngest of five children. has a European background and grew up in a strict household. has a big family. went to school in Astoria. When was 15 years old, her mother passed away and she was pretty much left on her own being the youngest child. aunts and uncles went their own way. met (known to law enforcement as and her life took a different turn. worked for JEFFREY EPSTEIN. still has trouble dealing with it; she normalized it in her mind for so long. knew meeting EPSTEIN was wrong but he was smart and he felt like her friend. EPSTEIN would hug and made her feel like he was the only person she had. wanted to feel mad about it but EPSTEIN was all she had for so many years; did not completely know how to feel about it. Saying it all out loud, realized how messed up it was and it took a long time for to get to that point. has seen movies and always wondered why people did not leave when in similar situations. has asked herself why she continued to have the relationship with EPSTEIN. still talks to III (known to law enforcement as ) and (known to law enforcement as has also talked to her sister and a therapist no longer speaks with Investiptionon 11/04/2020 at New York, New York, United States (In Person) Heft SOD-NY-3027571 Date drafted 01/05/2021 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the moµ" ty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents arc not to be distributed outside your agency. EFTA00090339 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 Comthuation of FD-302 of (U) Interview of .On 11/04/2020 ,page 2 of 9 When was 15 years old, her mother was in the hospital for four months before she passed away. and her sister had no guardian. When met they smoked weed together. was independent and also 15 years old. was living with her mother and a "go getter". mom was strict while was not. A month after mother passed away, about a guy her friend problems. (EPSTEIN) who saw EPSTEIN. would pay for worked at a Greek restaurant tried to get a job like that. met EPSTEIN. talked about like he talked to food - that had had told was a god. ■ about her always had money. Greek music. was angry with her family after her mother's passing. agreed to meet EPSTEIN. had told and to massage EPSTEIN and that he liked pretty girls and she may have to massage him in her bathing suit. EPSTEIN was nice, comforting, and EPSTEIN's house as hug and like a when she would go there. welcoming to dream. described stated it felt like a high The first time met EPSTEIN he knew everything about her. EPSTEIN listened, hugged her, and comforted her. EPSTEIN came at the right time in life as he seemed like a savior. There was no thought process as just went with it. EPSTEIN reassured that he would always be there if she ever needed anything. recalled the feeling that EPSTEIN loved and cared about her. The first time she went to EPSTEIN's home in Manhattan, was nervous and recalled fixing her makeup and wanting to look older. recalled walking up to EPSTEIN's front door because it was so massive. took to meet EPSTEIN. They walked into his Manhattan mansion as people let them in, then they waited in the office. EPSTEIN came in and showed around. recalled walking by his office and seeing leopard print chairs and thinking it was so cool because she loved leopard print. recalled going to different floors before going to the massage room. recalled the massage room as having a table with a little desk by it. The room had a full cabinet with so many lotions, including Bath and Body Works products. recalled orange scented products and stress relief products. felt cool because it felt like she was a real masseuse. described there being paintings on the walls. EFTA00090340 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 continuation of FD-302 of (U) Interview of 11/04/2020 .page 3 of 9 recalled seeing a painting of a "fat lady" that was naked but look depressed. would joke because she "had a butt" and would say that was her while the skinny one was recalled she would never forget the ceiling as it was not flat and there were clouds all over. Ninety percent of the time, EPSTEIN would be on the phone while he was getting a massage, then he would get off of the phone then flip over. EPSTEIN would brag about who he was talking to on the phone, saying he was on with the president or be on the phone with models. The president went on a trip with EPSTEIN on EPSTEIN's private jet. felt that EPSTEIN would brag about these calls on purpose. EPSTEIN was always talking to someone in power. was very intimidated by him. EPSTEIN was very powerful and had a very strong presence. EPSTEIN would come in wearing "stupid sweaters" that had "JE" on them. stated EPSTEIN "was so extra". EPSTEIN had towels that had his initials on them. described that EPSTEIN was funny and had a good sense of humor and would make them laugh. wanted to be a superstar; her screen name at the time was " '. EPSTEIN told that he had all these connections with models, and he knew the head of Victoria's Secret. EPSTEIN made a lot of promises. A few times, EPSTEIN drove home with a driver. recalled they were in a black pickup suburban. EPSTEIN tried to ask to do stuff. EPSTEIN told he could take her places and she could fly with him. mother was in a car accident and was scared to be in cars and flying. EPSTEIN bought things including Victoria's Secret lingerie. EPSTEIN really liked EPSTEIN did not care if had someone; he just wanted to see her. and told that EPSTEIN really liked her and she should go with him. did not like flying so she did not travel with EPSTEIN. would call the office and talk to girls. EPSTEIN always had LESLEY (known to law enforcement as LESLEY GROFF) call then he would come on the phone. EPSTEIN never called direct. Eventually EPSTEIN started asking for friends. brought to meet EPSTEIN. estimated saw EPSTEIN 3 to 4 times. EPSTEIN would get tired of the same girls. knew EPSTEIN saw III; he wanted to see her. EFTA00090341 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) SOD-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302 of (U) Interview of .On 11/04/2020 ,page 4 of 9 If ever needed anything she would call because she was a girl and felt comfortable talking to her. would rarely call EPSTEIN personally. would ask for money or Broadway show tickets, then would usually go to the office to pick up the money or tickets. If needed something and it was after office hours she would call EPSTEIN. recalled giving her identification when she went to the office for tickets. checked her ID before giving her the tickets. was picking up approximately six tickets. just looked at her ID and gave it back to her. thought she was looking at it to maybe just make sure it was her. This was in the beginning during one of her first encounters with thought this was around 2003. The first time had gone to the office was a few months after she started seeing EPSTEIN. thought the office was in Midtown. Sometimes, went with some of the girls, including or , to the office. did not go to the office with III as III and EPSTEIN formed their own relationship and he saw III on his own. Most of the times went in a cab to the office by herself. EPSTEIN was straight to the point, asking when he would see or if she had anyone new. EPSTEIN would tell her she could come at a certain time. Sometimes, went to EPSTEIN's residence 2 to 3 times a day to give him a massage. They did not speak over the phone about it. would massage EPSTEIN Then about six months later, EPSTEIN took to a different room, which was an open room that included a jacuzzi and a lot of shower heads. This was EPSTEIN's bedroom. EPSTEIN did not always every time he saw her. Sometimes, EPSTEIN just wanted Other times, EPSTEIN wanted to in different rooms of the house, including one time in the room that had a stuffed dog and a tiger in it. Seeing EPSTEIN became more personable to as it felt like EPSTEIN was her boyfriend. EPSTEIN would spend time with her and drive her home. knew he was not her boyfriend because he was still seeing her friends. EFTA00090342 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 Comthwdion of FD-302 of (U) Interview of .On 11/04/2020 .page 5 of 9 knew the massages were sexual because had told her. told that she met EPSTEIN through her friend- told that EPSTEIN was rich, he would help her, and give her money. told that she would have to massage EPSTEIN and it would lead to a "happy ending" and that EPSTEIN sometimes "jerked himself off". told her she would get $300 each time. The massages turned sexual right away when started seeing EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN always gave her $300, sometimes he gave her $400. If went with someone, sometimes it was would get $300 and or another girl would get $300. EPSTEIN paid himself. If EPSTEIN gave the full amount, sometimes only gave $200 and kept the rest for herself. asked LESLEY if she could borrow $1000 and EPSTEIN said she could. went to the office to pick it up. described as blonde and nice. would tell LESLEY to tell EPSTEIN that her friend could not make it and asked if he wanted to see instead. would mention different girls' names to LESLEY. felt it was pretty obvious LESLEY knew what was going on. When was 17/18 years old she found out she was pregnant. called the office to talk to LESLEY, saying she needed to speak to EPSTEIN as soon as possible because she needed money to get an abortion. said the procedure would cost her $400. LESLEY was able to get EPSTEIN on the phone right away and EPSTEIN gave $1000 in an envelope. then went to Planned Parenthood. EPSTEIN would send to his dentist and medical care providers if she needed it. was supposed to go to school in 9th grade but with her mother passing away and her family not around, she could not focus. With "selling her body to an older man" she felt she was "fucked up". would rather call LESLEY than EPSTEIN when she needed money. LESLEY knew she was staying in hotels. was too young to get an apartment in her name as she was 16 years old at the time, so she stayed in hotels, including Super 8. would call LESLEY, who knew she was living in hotels, and tell her she needed money for hotels. said to LESLEY that she could not sign a lease because she was not 18 years old. remembered the conversation she had with LESLEY because it was when she first booked a hotel. was staying with III for approximately 2 to 3 days when mother started "bitching" about her staying there. She EFTA00090343 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) S0D-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302 of (U) Interview of o, 11/04/2020 m g, 6 of 9 and III stormed out and they slept on the roof that night. then called the office and talked to LESLEY. told LESLEY that she could not get an apartment because she was not 18. told LESLEY that it was $100 night and if she stayed for the week then she could get a better rate. It was a hotel near house. LESLEY said she would relay the message to EPSTEIN. ended up staying with for a while. would take girls out, get their nails done, get a girl to be her friend then convince her to go to see EPSTEIN. would tell this to LESLEY and ask her if EPSTEIN could give her money to do so. Key words she would say to LESLEY was, "I have a new friend and I was going to take her to dinner and get her nails done". LESLEY would tell her "ok", put her on hold, and get EPSTEIN on the line. had a deeper conversation with LESLEY in person. There was a time when had to wait because the money was not ready when she went to pick it up from the office - usually the money was ready but that time it was not and she and LESLEY talked. felt it was clear her relationship with EPSTEIN was based on money and she felt it was clear she was underage. said things stopped when EPSTEIN was arrested in Florida. EPSTEIN had gone to Florida and she did not see him for a while and did not know what had happened. just thought that he went away. had gotten a notice when EPSTEIN was arrested. told EPSTEIN and remembered being scared about it. EPSTEIN said he got in trouble in Florida. remembered being mad for him. EPSTEIN said that if she saw or heard anything, she did not know anything and to ignore it. said EPSTEIN was still in Florida. did not think she knew what was going on and did not mention it. When EPSTEIN came back to New York, there were rules. One of the rules was that girls had to bring ID and had to be 18 years old. This was for a few months. When was around 21 years old, things with EPSTEIN "died off". There were times where told EPSTEIN she had a girl who was 21 years old and he told that was too old. It became challenging for to find girls that EPSTEIN liked. Sometimes lied to EPSTEIN and told him the girl was younger than she was if she looked young, but EPSTEIN would catch her in the lie. had conversations with EPSTEIN on how old she was. They had EFTA00090344 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) SOD-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302 of (U) Interview of .On 11/04/2020 ,page 7 of 9 conversations about why she could not get an apartment. EPSTEIN knew age because he asked right away, also asking where she was from and what was her birthday. told him she was a Cancer and EPSTEIN told her he was an Aquarius. Two to three months after meeting EPSTEIN, brought was best friend at the time, before had met EPSTEIN would ask questions about her day and she would talk about , so EPSTEIN told her that she should bring her. Sometimes, lied to EPSTEIN that she did not have anyone. would try to find a girl to go with her if he was not seeing her as much. EPSTEIN wanted a certain age group, even 20 was too old for him. EPSTEIN liked 15 to 18 years old girls and liked them on the "slim side". When was 16 years old, she started training and her "butt got bigger" and EPSTEIN told her that she her to bring needed to girls, he lose said the slim side?". After the ten pounds. When EPSTEIN first started asking something like, "Do you have any friends, but on first few conversations with him he did not have to tell her anymore. EPSTEIN would settle if he had to if the girl looked young but would tell never to bring her again. EPSTEIN did not like aggressive or experienced girls. EPSTEIN hated one girl because she tried to do more with him and initiated more. EPSTEIN liked shy and timid girls. EPSTEIN did not want anyone over 18 years old. and III talked about it once and they brought a girl just to shut him up and EPSTEIN replied "really". EPSTEIN would turn them down. There would be certain girls knew would be willing to go. To the money she received at the time felt like a lot of money. would tell girls that they would massage EPSTEIN and sometimes he would masturbate. made it seem like it was normal. normalized it in her own brain. When would take a girl the first time, she would stay with the other girl. Sometimes EPSTEIN would want her to stay in the room with the girl she brought and sometimes he would want her to leave the room. EPSTEIN would give a vibrator and tell her to go wait in the other room. When would bring a girl, she would bring them one or two times then would filter through friends and bring different girls. friendships at the time were based on who was working with her to see EPSTEIN. remembered but dealt with more. Was EFTA00090345 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) SOD-NY-3027571 continuation of FD-302 of (U) Interview of a 11/04/2020 ,page 8 of 9 EPSTEIN's go to person. was one of the girls who also worked in the office. mostly dealt with but then later dealt with someone else, but did not recall the person's name. recalled someone with brown hair who worked out of the office at the house sometimes; was not sure if this was she was recalling or someone else. recalled talking to the last time and she said she would speak to EPSTEIN but EPSTEIN never called met CHRIS TUCKER in EPSTEIN's house and just said hi to him. interaction with TUCKER was brief and just said it was nice to meet him - they did not really talk and nothing happened with him. EPSTEIN always told he was going to get her into Victoria's Secret, telling her he knew NAOMI CAMPBELL. There was one time where EPSTEIN introduced to CAMPBELL while they were in EPSTEIN's office with the stuffed tiger. recalled something about MIKE TYSON but did not remember what it was. EPSTEIN may have been talking to TYSON on speaker phone and heard. EPSTEIN was always on the phone with others including, BILL CLINTON and DONALD TRUMP. EPSTEIN and talked via phone call but never through email or text. EPSTEIN gave her lingerie. still has the first bra EPSTEIN gave her; it was a white lace Victoria's Secret bra. had picked the lingerie up from the office; LESLEY gave it to her in a Victoria's Secret bag. EPSTEIN also gave earrings, but she gave those away. When was not around EPSTEIN she did not want to go see him, but when she was around him she wondered why she was beating herself up about seeing him. EPSTEIN was only source of income for a while. was able to get a job with " " for a while. felt that LESLEY knew the massage appointments were sexual. would talk with LESLEY about different girls and LESLEY was always connecting her with EPSTEIN. LESLEY would get back on the call with when EPSTEIN was done talking to him, so did not know if LESLEY was on the whole time. never said anything to LESLEY about the massages. recalled a time when she and III were underage drinking and were arrested. thought they were on 77th and York and went to a police EFTA00090346 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD-302 of (U) Interview of .On 11/04/2020 .Page 9 of 9 station downtown. called LESLEY and EPSTEIN bailed them out. They went to court and and III had to do community service. Was around 17 year sold and thought III would have been 16 years old when this happened. thought this happened in or around 2004 probably around the end of summer. The last time saw EPSTEIN was when she was 21 years old. thought she spoke with EPSTEIN sometime afterwards because she had a bill from EPSTEIN's dentist DR KAPLAN and had called LESLEY. EPSTEIN had returned her call while she was in Walmart with her boyfriend. thought she was around 23/24 years old at the time of this call. EPSTEIN told her not to worry about the bill. thought the bill was around $5000. EPSTEIN told her he was going through stuff but everything was ok and that he hoped to see her soon. EPSTEIN never called her again. EFTA00090347