EFTA00091990.pdf

From: ' (USANYS)Il To: "Berman. Geoffrey (USANYS)" <I >, " (USANYS)" Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 11 of 11) Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 20:29:19 +0000 Ok, that should be it. Sorry for bombarding with emails. If anyone has any issues viewing any of them, let me know. Thanks! From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:28 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) (USANYS) =(USANYS) Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 11 of 11) 11 of 11 Q: Ms. Maxwell, when did you first meet A: I have no idea when I met her. O: Do you know how old she was when you met her? A: I have no idea how old she was when I met her. O: Is it possible she was 13 years old when you first met her? A: was Jeffrey's friend and so may have been in the house when Jeffrey was in the house. I have no idea how old she was. O: I'm asking if was 13 years old when you first met her? A: I have no idea. Q: Was she under 18 when you first met her? A: I have no idea how old she was when I first met her. From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:27 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) =(USANYS) Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 10 of 11) > 10 of 11 (USANYS) O: On page 28, that same paragraph, [sic — the report is in connection with an interview of not was asked how many girls in total she brought to Epstein. stated that she can't remember, stated that she brought and, it's redacted there, and the victim in this case. Let me ask my question, I have a question pending right now. Are you testifying that you are EFTA00091990 unaware of any underage, under the age of 18, females coming to Jeffrey Epstein's home to perform massages? A: You need to straddle that question in a different time period. When I was there, at the time I was present, the people that gave Jeffrey, men and women who gave Jeffrey massages were adults over the age of 18. 0: Never in your time at any of Jeffrey Epstein's homes were you present when a female under the age of 18 was there to give Jeffrey Epstein a massage? A: First of all, as I said when I was present -- 0: It is a yes or no. A: No, it is not. 0: You can answer the question in full but please provide yes or no as an initial matter. A: I cannot answer yes or no, it's not bounded by time. It's entirely possible I could have been in a room or even in the vicinity of Palm Beach when somebody came and I would not know. How would I know when somebody was in the house. There is no way I can know. From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:25 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) (USANYS) (USANYS) : Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 8 of 11) 9 of 11 0: Did you ever have conversations with anyone that were intended to convince them to engage in sexual activities with Mr. Epstein? A: No. From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:23 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) (USANYS) : Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 8 of 11) 8 of 11 (USANYS) 0: Were you aware of the presence of sex toys or devices used in sexual activities in Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach house? A: No, not that I recall. 0: Were you aware that there were sex toys or devices used in sexual activities in Mr. Epstein's New York house? A: No. 0: Were you aware that there were sex toys or devices used in sexual activities in Mr. Epstein's property in the Virgin Islands? A: No. 0: Were you aware whether or not there were sex toys or devices used in sexual activities in Mr. Epstein's property in the Virgin Islands? EFTA00091991 A: No. Q: Do you know whether Mr. Epstein possessed sex toys or devices used in sexual activities? A: No. From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:18 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) (USANYS) =(USANYS) Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 7 of 11) > 7 of 11 CI: Can you list for me all the girls that you have met and brought to Jeffrey Epstein's house that were under the age of 18? A: I could only recall my family members that were there and I could not make a list of anyone else because that list -- it never happened that I can think of. CI: I'm talking about the time you were working for Jeffrey Epstein, can you list all the girls that you found for Jeffrey Epstein that were under the age of 18 to come work for him in any capacity? A: I didn't find the girls. From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:15 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) =(USANYS) Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 6 of 11) 6 of 11 (in three parts, breaks in video should correspond with ellipses in transcript) CI: How many teenagers did he have that were professional masseuses that worked in his home? How many? A: First of all, I am not aware of teenagers who worked in his home. (USANYS) [—] CI: Who were the other 17 year old masseuses that you were aware of? A: I am not aware of any. CI: Were there any 16 year year [sic] old masseuse that you are aware of? A: I am not aware. CI: Any 15? A: I just want to be clear. The only person that I am aware of who claims to have been a -- we have to -- we established he only person that I am aware of that was a masseuse at the time when I was present in the house was .1 CI: Did Jeffrey Epstein have a scheme to recruit underage girls for sexual massages? If you know. A: I don't know what you're talking about. EFTA00091992 [No follow-up questions on this topic.] From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:08 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) (USANYS) ▪ (USANYS) Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 2 of 11) 5 of 11 Q: Did you ever invite anybody who was under the age of 18 to Jeffrey's homes? A: I have a number of friends that have children and friends of mine that have kids and in the invitation of my friends and their kids, I'm sure I may have invited some of my friend's kids to come. CI: Anybody that is not a friend of yours. Any female under the age of 18, did you invite them to come to Jeffrey's home? A: Again, as I said, I am not aware of inviting anybody other than friends of mine who have children to the house. From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:02 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) ▪ (USANYS) : Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 2 of 11) 4 of 11 (USANYS) CI: Did Mr. Epstein ever ask you to attempt to obtain or secure people to give him massages that were not professional masseuses? A: No. From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:59 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) ▪ (USANYS) : Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 2 of 11) 3 of 11 (USANYS) CI: Can you list for me all the girls that you have met and brought to Jeffrey Epstein's house that were under the age of 18? A: I could only recall my family members that were there and I could not make a list of anyone else because that list — it never happened that I can think of. CI: I'm talking about the time you were working for Jeffrey Epstein, can you list all girls that you found for Jeffrey Epstein that were under the age of 18 to come work for him in any capacity? A: I didn't find the girls. EFTA00091993 Q: You choose the word. [objection] Q: List all of the girls you met and brought to Jeffrey Epstein's home for the purposes of employment that were under the age of 18? A: I've already characterized my job was to find people, adults, professional people to do the jobs I listed before; pool person, secretary, house person, chef, pilot, architect. 0: I'm asking about individuals under the age of 18, not adult persons, people under the age of 18. A: I looked for people or tried to find people to fill professional jobs in professional situations. Q: So was under the age of 18, correct? A: I think we've established that was 17. 0: Is she the — sorry, go ahead. Is she the only individual that you met for purposes of hiring someone for Jeffrey that was under the age of 18? A: I didn't hire people. 0: I said met. A: I interviewed people for jobs for professional things and I am not aware of anyone aside from now who clearly was a masseuse aged 17 but that's, at least that's how far we know that I can think of that fulfilled any professional capacity for Jeffrey.? 0: List all the people under the age of 18 that you interacted with at any of Jeffrey's properties? A: I'm not aware of anybody that I interacted with, other than obviously who was 17 at this point? 0: [The following question changes topic, moving to a discussion of a statement made to the press.] From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:49 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) (USANYS) =(USANYS) : Subject: RE: Maxwell Clip (Email 2 of 11) 2 of 11 Q: At any time, in any of Mr. Epstein's properties, did you engage in sexual activities with any woman other than when you had three-way sexual activities with Mr. Epstein? A: No. Q: Other than yourself and the blond and brunette that you have identified as having been involved in three- way sexual activities, with whom did Mr. Epstein have sexual activities? A: I wasn't aware that he was having sexual activities with anyone when I was with him other than myself. Q: I want to be sure that I'm clear. Is it your testimony that in the 1990s and 2000s, you were not aware that Mr. Epstein was having sexual activities with anyone other than yourself and the blond and brunette on those few occasions when they were involved with you? A: That is my testimony, that is correct. EFTA00091994 From: (USANYS) [Contractor] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:37 PM To: Berman, Geoffrey (USANYS) (USANYS)4 Subject: Maxwell Clip (Email 1 of 11) (USANYS) < >; Will attempt to send all of them via email. Sorry for the quality. Should be 11 emails. This is #1. Corresponds to the following transcript passage in the pros memo (with some additional time before and after): Q: Did you ever give a massage to anyone other than Mr. Epstein at any of Mr. Epstein's properties? A: First of all, I never said I gave Mr. Epstein a massage. Q: I will ask that question if you want, but I was focusing on people other than Mr. Epstein right now. A: I don't give massages. 0: Let's just tie that down. Is it your testimony that you've never given anybody a massage? A: I have not given anyone a massage. 0: You never gave Mr. Epstein a massage, is that your testimony? A: That is my testimony. 0: You never gave a massage is your testimony? A: I never gave a massage. EFTA00091995