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1 DIGITALLY RECORDED SWORN STATEMENT OF MARK EPSTEIN OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SEPTEMBER 22, 2021 RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES EFTA00113482 2 APPEARANCES: OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL BY: BY: WITNESS: MARK EPSTEIN OTHER APPEARANCES: STACEY RICHMAN EFTA00113483 3 1 : The recorder has started. 2 : This is Special Agent 3 with the Department of Justice, Office 4 of the Inspector General. Today is Wednesday, 5 September 22, 2021. The time is 10:29 a.m. We 6 are here at the New York Field Office, in 7 Office of Inspector General. Present is Mr. 8 Mark Epstein. Attorney Stacey Richman. DOJ 9 Senior Special Agent And 10 myself. We are conducting an interview with 11 Mr. Mark Epstein in regards to Jeffrey 12 Epstein's investigation, of his death. I'm 13 going to introduce myself for the recording, 14 and I'm going to state my last name, also spell 15 it out. My name is Special Agent 16 17 : Senior Special Agent 18 with the U.S Department of 19 Justice, Office of the Inspector General. 20 21 : Okay. 22 MR. EPSTEIN: Mark Epstein. E-P-S-T-E-I- 23 N. 24 : Attorney Richmond, can you 25 introduce yourself? EFTA00113484 4 1 2 MS. RICHMAN: Stacey Richman. S-T-A-C-E- 3 Y. R-I-C-H-M-A-N. 4 MR. EPSTEIN: And when you stated, my name 5 Mark is M-A-R-K. Not with a C. A K. 6 : Thank you for taking the time 7 to talk to us today. 8 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 9 : Just for the record, you are 10 Mark Epstein, Mr. Jeffrey Epstein's brother. 11 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 12 : And I understand that 13 basically, you reached out through attorney 14 Richman, you reached out to us, and you stated 15 that there was a few things you wanted to share 16 with the OIG. 17 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 18 : Go ahead. You can go ahead. 19 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 20 : Let me just ask some, 21 like, just, or ask to maybe see his license, 22 just so we can verify 23 : Yeah. 24 : -- if you don't want to 25 ask him for his date of birth. (Indiscernible EFTA00113485 5 1 *00:01:46) 2 : Yeah. Can we verify? 3 MR. EPSTEIN: Sure. 4 : Or you can just ask your 5 birthday, date of birth. 6 : Yeah. 7 : It's one or the other. 8 MR. EPSTEIN: Oh, it's only my driver's 9 license. 10 : Mr. Mark Epstein has shown me 11 a photo, driver's license, and it has his 12 picture on it, and it states his name on it. 13 Just for the record, here is my credentials. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 15 : I'm a Special Agent 16 with the DOJ/OIG. 17 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 18 : And these are my 19 credentials. Senior Special Agent -- 20 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 21 • 22 You can go now. 23 : Go ahead. 24 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. As I mentioned 25 before, before you came, I told them that, when EFTA00113486 6 1 I first heard of Jeffrey's death, I just 2 assumed that it was a suicide, because it was 3 reported as such, and that time, I had no 4 reason to doubt it. And I just respected his 5 decision to take himself out. But then, as 6 things progressed, and when more information 7 came out, it looks like, if you just looked at 8 the information, there's no way in the world 9 you would say it was a suicide. The first 10 thing being the autopsy. The autopsy was 11 conducted the next day. It was conducted by 12 the city pathologist. And I was right, I was 13 able to get a pathologist to witness this, and 14 had Dr. (Phonetic Sp. 15 *00:03:00). I don't know if you know Dr. 16 , but you can't get a -- 17 MS. RICHMAN: He's the former Chief 18 Medical Examiner of the city of New York. 19 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 20 MS. RICHMAN: So, he went back to his 21 office because he was hired by Mark to review, 22 and be present, at the autopsy. 23 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Normally, if I hire a 24 forensic pathologist to review the autopsy, he 25 has the right to just stand here and watch. EFTA00113487 7 1 And then, we can get the body, afterwards, to 2 do a second autopsy, if needed. But because of 3 who is, they did whatever he requested 4 them to do with the autopsy. So, there was no 5 need for a second autopsy. also, has 6 been on the Special Commission, investigating 7 prison deaths, since the Attica riots in 1970. 8 So, he's been doing this for a long time. 9 There's no better authority in prison 10 deaths than . And the city 11 pathologist came out with Dr. and her 12 determination was, she could not call this a 13 suicide. There was too many questionable 14 things, you know, like the broken bones in his 15 neck. And confirmed that, he also, not 16 to call this a suicide. It looks much more 17 like a homicide. Plus, there were the wounds 18 on his body. I'm, like, I have pictures I 19 could show you. And then, when we got the 20 death certificate to move, to claim the body, 21 the cause of death was pending. You know, 22 pending for an investigation. And then, a few 23 days later, the Chief Medical Examiner of New 24 York declares it a suicide. 25 MS. RICHMAN: Just to clarify. We found EFTA00113488 8 1 out, through the media, they were going to make 2 that change. So, we called the Medical 3 Examiner's Office, asking how come you haven't 4 notified the family, and what is the central 5 reason for changing this? We interviewed them 6 for about, hmm, an hour. And we discovered 7 that they really didn't have much of a basis. 8 But everybody was just closing the 9 investigation. And when I persisted, is when I 10 learned that the camera on the floor, where Mr. 11 Epstein's cell was, had been corrupted. And no 12 one had actually viewed that camera. 13 MR. EPSTEIN: Now, one of the questions 14 about the camera on the tier, I don't know, 15 there's some pictures of, you know, we're 16 walking through the tier, and (Indiscernible 17 *00:05:08) all the cameras, right? That camera 18 wasn't working. So, one of the questions I 19 have is, when did that camera stop working? 20 When was the last time that camera actually 21 took a picture, you know, and have they 22 determined why that camera wasn't working? 23 Were the wires cut? 24 Was it unplugged, or, you know, why was 25 that camera not working? There is an answer to EFTA00113489 9 1 that. You know, and I am going to get it. I 2 had, I could start showing some pictures, but 3 to keep going on, you know, because they did, 4 they swabbed - under autopsy report - they 5 swabbed his fingers for DNA evidence, in case 6 somebody was there. Was that ever checked? I 7 never saw the results of that DNA testing. You 8 know, nothing has been (Indiscernible 9 *00:05:50) for that. 10 And one of the things that lit up my mind 11 on top of this, one of the big things is that, 12 Attorney General Barr made a statement, saying 13 that he viewed the camera that was outside of 14 the tier, that showed the door, and the guards, 15 as that's directly right between, that the 16 guards were just, you know, jerking off, or 17 (Indiscernible *00:06:09) web, or whatever they 18 were doing. Make sure that video tape, and he 19 said that, he said that nobody went - that he 20 personally saw it, which I thought was strange. 21 You know, that nobody went in or out of the 22 tier. 23 So, that convinced them it was a suicide. 24 You guys are professional investigators. I am 25 not. But for me, the lights went off, I said, EFTA00113490 10 1 either this is the stupidest guy on the planet, 2 or, if Jeffrey was killed, the killer was 3 already on the tier. So, it's just things that 4 might be come into the tier to kill him, I 5 mean, there's too many witnesses, how do you 6 get somebody in or out? But if he was killed, 7 the killer was already on the tier. 8 So, for him to make the statement that no 9 one went in or out, that convinced him it was a 10 suicide. I mean, that's like a, I think we 11 agree, it was like an amateur mistake in the 12 investigations, because there were a number of 13 people inside. Right? Well, let me pull up 14 something to show you. 15 MS. RICHMAN: Okay. 16 : On that note, do you have 17 any information that anyone was actually in his 18 cell? 19 MR. EPSTEIN: There was nobody in his 20 cell. 21 MS. RICHMAN: Well, was 22 MR. EPSTEIN: There was supposed to be 23 somebody in his cell. Because he was 24 supposedly on suicide watch, doing whatever, 25 and he was released, and there was supposed to EFTA00113491 11 1 be somebody in his cell, and there wasn't, and 2 he was taken out. He was alone that night, in 3 his cell. And so, other, like, just 4 evidentiary things, they report that he was 5 found unresponsive in his cell. And then was 6 taken to the hospital. He wasn't found 7 unresponsive. He was found dead. Okay? 8 Jeffrey was dead for a minimum of two hours 9 before they found him. And I will show you how 10 we know that. 11 MS. RICHMAN: Also, talk about the 12 description of the (Indiscernible *00:07:45). 13 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. A 14 whole bunch of things. I got -. I have a list 15 of the number of the photos. I left it at 16 home, unfortunately, but I will pull them up, 17 and have a look. 18 : Now, are you going to 19 show us why you know that he was dead for at 20 least two hours? 21 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Yeah. 22 : Okay. 23 MR. EPSTEIN: I'm going to get to that 24 picture. As soon as I can. 25 : Just for the recording, I'm EFTA00113492 12 1 just going to state that Mr. Epstein has his 2 own laptop, and he is providing us He is 3 just going to explain the pictures to us. 4 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 5 : In your custody. 6 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Also, in the autopsy 7 8 MS. RICHMAN: And the picture is from the 9 autopsy. 10 : From the autopsy. 11 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Yeah. They also 12 found, you know, three broken bones in his 13 neck. Which is extremely rare to have one 14 broken bone, when you do what's called a soft 15 hanging. You have, like, Robin Williams hung 16 himself with a bathrobe thing. With the belt 17 thing. Those are soft hangings. You usually 18 don't break bones, and he had three breaks. 19 Which is one of the reasons they thought it was 20 more like a homicide. If you -. 21 : So, what we're looking at 22 is, do you know which bones we're talking 23 about? 24 MR. EPSTEIN: It's the higher bone. 25 Something like the (Indiscernible *00:08:47), EFTA00113493 13 1 2 3 4 is what it's called. : And did they ever -- MR. EPSTEIN: And it really isn't -. : discuss anything about 5 chest compressions? Would that potentially 6 have happened during CPR? 7 MR. EPSTEIN: No. 8 MS. RICHMAN: No. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: No. This is the neck. 10 11 MS. lower. RICHMAN: Chest compressions are 12 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Chest compressions. 13 It can break ribs. Not the higher. 14 MS. RICHMAN: So. 15 MR. EPSTEIN: It felt pretty useful. See, 16 this is the camera that wasn't working. 17 : Right. 18 MR. EPSTEIN: That would show him 19 (Indiscernible *00:09:09). 20 And they provide you with 21 all of this? 22 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 23 : Okay. 24 25 MS. releases. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:09:24) EFTA00113494 14 1 : Really? 2 MS. RICHMAN: Mm-hmm. 3 : (Indiscernible 4 *00:09:28)? 5 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:09:28). 6 : Oh, for the statement of 7 information in? 8 MS. RICHMAN: That was just released 9 (Indiscernible *00:09:33). And announced by 10 the (Indiscernible *00:09:39). 11 MR. EPSTEIN: Do you guys (Indiscernible 12 *00:09:40) with murder investigations? Is that 13 part of the normally? I mean, do you have, 14 like, any forensic experience on that? 15 : So, our investigation 16 pertains to the death of -- 17 MR. EPSTEIN: All right. 18 : -- Jeffrey. 19 (Indiscernible *00:09:59). 20 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. One thing I'll show 21 you now, before we get to, is that the only way 22 they was trying to say that, well, he put a 23 noose on his neck, and sort of jumped off the 24 top bunk. That would give him that breaks, or 25 it would be harsh. You know, like, if you saw EFTA00113495 15 1 the Shawshank Redemption, when Brooks kicked 2 himself off the chair, you know, and fall down. 3 That's (Indiscernible *00:10:23), because it 4 has to be harsh like that. The top bunk in 5 Jeffrey's cell was filled with his medications 6 (Indiscernible *00:10:29). Nobody was on that 7 bunk. Nobody jumped off that bunk. I'm just 8 looking for the neck pictures. Also, let me go 9 back one second. Shit, I apologize for not 10 having that list. 11 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:10:54). 12 MR. EPSTEIN: Uh-huh. Also, what, another 13 question I have is, who was in charge in the 14 prison? Who -? First of all, they moved the 15 body, which you're not supposed to do. And 16 supposedly, they (Indiscernible *00:11:11), you 17 know, when they find a dead body in prison, 18 they're not supposed to move it. They're 19 supposed to get the Medical Examiner's Office, 20 so they can (Indiscernible *00:11:17) surprise. 21 I mean, they had it look like -. He was moved. 22 Now, if you saw the photographs, when they 23 took him out of the hospital, he was on a 24 gurney, and he was intubated. They were trying 25 to squeeze the tube with no air in it. It EFTA00113496 16 1 said, he's dead for two hours. Why were they 2 trying to make it look like he was alive? 3 Like, these are -. The EMTs - and I would like 4 to talk to them - it's , and I 5 think it's III (Indiscernible *00:11:44), them 6 two EMTs. If I recall, they're the EMTs that 7 were actually in the cell. 8 : Okay. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Now, just, let me go back 10 one second. Here is another picture of the top 11 bunk. You see, nobody was there. So, I would 12 like to talk to those two guys. 13 : Yeah. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: This is the noose. Right? 15 Look at that. When the guards found him, the 16 guy was (Indiscernible *00:12:10), he's saying 17 that he cut him down. And I think the guard 18 said Michael Thomas. The guard that found him. 19 He said he cut him down. Yeah. You see the 20 edge of his noose thing? That's a himmed edge. 21 That wasn't cut. Okay? If this was tied to 22 something, this would be wrinkled. It would be 23 marked from there, you know, like, here, you 24 see, like, creases in this part? There would 25 be something here, showing that this was tied EFTA00113497 17 1 to something. Okay? Here is another question 2 I have. He was dead when they took him. When 3 they found him. And he was wearing - and I 4 checked through someone who was there, who said 5 that, I guess, what was he wearing in the cell? 6 And he was wearing his orange boxer shorts and 7 t-shirt. The prison clothing. 8 : Okay. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: They take his dead body out. 10 And it was either, they cut the stuff off of 11 him, because I have pictures of the boxer 12 shorts cut. Who dressed the dead body with the 13 hospital gown? Okay. Dead bodies, you cover 14 with a sheet. He wasn't going to run down the 15 hall in the hospital, with his balls flapping 16 in the wind. He didn't have to hide. So, who 17 -? Who -? Now, I know that when they took him 18 to the hospital, there were four people in the 19 room, and somebody had a hand-held video. And, 20 like, and they were working down at the 21 hospital. Where is that tape? 22 : Okay. 23 : How do you know that? 24 MR. EPSTEIN: I was told that. 25 : Okay. Also, there is a EFTA00113498 18 1 question of, why was he moved? Because you 2 know, you know what (Indiscernible *00:13:57) 3 is? 4 : Yes. 5 : Yes. 6 MR. EPSTEIN: You know, you die, you fall 7 on your back, your gut turns purple, because 8 you (Indiscernible *00:14:02). 9 : Okay. 10 MR. EPSTEIN: Now, he was moved. So, I 11 want to find out from Michael Thomas, what 12 position was Jeffrey in when he found him? And 13 I'll know the answer to that. Because he was 14 sitting, like, right by (Indiscernible 15 *00:14:14), you know, your ass in the back, 16 your legs are going to go, you know, if you're 17 leaning forward, doing it that way, but you 18 (Indiscernible *00:14:19) your legs are going 19 to go. You know, so, what position was he in? 20 After they found him 21 : So, you said Michael 22 Thomas made statements. Which statements are 23 (Indiscernible *00:14:28)? 24 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, he said he cut him 25 down. EFTA00113499 19 1 : Where did you get that 2 statement from? 3 MR. EPSTEIN: It was in the paper. 4 MS. RICHMAN: It was (Indiscernible 5 *00:14:31). 6 MR. EPSTEIN: That was that (Indiscernible 7 *00:14:32). 8 : Like, recently, or was 9 that 10 MR. EPSTEIN: No. NO. 11 : -- at the time? 12 MR. EPSTEIN: At the time. 13 MS. RICHMAN: At the time. 14 : Yeah, yeah. 15 MR. EPSTEIN: At the time. 16 : They hadn't received the 17 statements from him then, did they? 18 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. He was (Indiscernible 19 *00:14:40) at the time, but, you know, he said, 20 I mean, that's what he said, he would cut him 21 down and said, you fucked up. Or you messed 22 up. You know, when the supervisor 23 (Indiscernible *00:14:46), he said he messed 24 up, he didn't do the checks. Or something to 25 that effect. EFTA00113500 20 1 : Okay. 2 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 3 : But not, like, an 4 official report -- 5 MR. EPSTEIN: I dont -- 6 : -- stating that? 7 MR. EPSTEIN: -- I don't. They don't show 8 me them. 9 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:14:57) 10 evidence from that prosecution. 11 : Right, right. 12 MS. RICHMAN: That would be (Indiscernible 13 *00:15:00). 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 15 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:15:03) 16 MR. EPSTEIN: That's his neck. All right? 17 If I strangle you, now that, number one, does 18 not look like a sheet. It looks more like an 19 electric cord, because he had a CPAP machine in 20 this room, with an electric cord. 21 : Okay. 22 MR. EPSTEIN: That does not look like a 23 sheet. Plus, if he had a sheet around his 24 neck, it would be discolored from the 25 secretions from his skin. Okay? Now, if I EFTA00113501 21 1 strangle you, metaphorically, with an electric 2 (Indiscernible *00:15:26), okay? You won't get 3 a groove in your neck, because your internal 4 self pressure will flatten your skin back out. 5 Like, you might get a little abrasion mark, or 6 rub mark, but you won't get a groove stuck in 7 your neck. That takes at least two hours. 8 That's how we know he was dead for at least two 9 hours, because of that. Okay? That's 10 uncontroverted. 11 MS. RICHMAN: It's not consistent with 12 what you thought was demonstrated as the noose. 13 : Right. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 15 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:15:52) 16 evidence with (Indiscernible *00:15:53) 17 MR. EPSTEIN: He could have been for six 18 hours. But a minimum of two. That's Dr. 19 you know, opinion, which I take is 20 more of (Indiscernible *00:16:04), as opposed 21 to it. That's not a sheet. That looks more 22 like an electric cord. Also, you see these 23 marks above the groove line? 24 MS. RICHMAN: Uh-huh. 25 : Okay. EFTA00113502 22 1 MR. EPSTEIN: If you hang yourself, and 2 you put something around your neck, and you 3 hang yourself, okay, it's going to slip up. 4 It's going to go high on your neck. If 5 anything, the skin below that mark is going to 6 be abraded. Or roughed up. Because the nooses 7 don't (Indiscernible *00:16:27). You're not 8 going to get marks above your noose. That's -. 9 It won't go down. Your neck won't mark above 10 the noose. The noose line or whatever, the 11 ligature, whatever was used. 12 You know, where these marks above the 13 line. That means also, if you hang yourself, 14 that line goes up. It goes to your ears. You 15 strangle with a garrote, that's the more 16 straight back. I mean, the line goes all the 17 way back and that's what to expect. Okay? So, 18 here's the closer look. The better look. 19 That's not the noose, it's not a sheet doing 20 that. That's being abraded from that. Also, 21 his eyes. And I'm going to have pictures of 22 it. When you strangle, you know, the little 23 blood vessels in your eyes burst. The -- 24 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:17:33). 25 MR. EPSTEIN: -- the tipia (Phonetic Sp. EFTA00113503 23 1 *00:17:33), whatever, and it's exhibited here. 2 Also, he has a cut on his arm here. You know, 3 so, you can see the groove is in there. That 4 groove is not coming out. What number is that? 5 That may be the list. Hold on. Let's reboot. 6 : When did you last - wuick 7 question, you mentioned that you hard from 8 somebody that they had a (Indiscernible 9 *00:18:09) in your time at the hospital. Who 10 did you hear that from? 11 MR. EPSTEIN: Do you have a specific name? 12 MR. EPSTEIN: No. Okay. This is the 13 (Indiscernible *00:18:50). Where is the little 14 (Indiscernible *00:18:56)? (Indiscernible 15 *00:19:05), because there's a cut on his lip 16 here. Look at that. There's a bruise on the 17 back of his neck here. Oh, there's another 18 question I had before I forget, is in the 19 paperwork, the last guards to see him was Tova 20 Noel and (Indiscernible *00:19:43). You see 21 here, it's like just a little (Indiscernible 22 *00:20:11). Another thing you should be 23 investigating, assuming he was killed, is 24 (Indiscernible *00:21:37). Because I was also 25 told this was through somebody who EFTA00113504 24 1 (Indiscernible *00:21:47), through the 2 attorney, because somebody was under water, he 3 said that somebody was (Indiscernible 4 *00:21:47). So, you know, there is an old 5 saying that anyone can commit murder, but it 6 takes an artist to commit suicide. If this was 7 done, somebody who was put on that 8 (Indiscernible *00:22:07) to do this. Somebody 9 was (Indiscernible *00:22:12). He was killed, 10 you know, back to his cell, anyone else 11 (Indiscernible *00:22:15) after the fact, a lto 12 of times have been transferred off. Because if 13 someone was (Indiscernible *00:22:22) to do 14 this. I don't know if he's lost (Indiscernible 15 *00:22:23), find out who was on that cord, you 16 know, that was two weeks practically. 17 : Who told you that someone 18 was (Indiscernible *00:22:29)? 19 MR. EPSTEIN: A journalist. 20 (Indiscernible *00:22:29). He lied. 21 : Ah. Now, that is 22 something we would very much like to follow up 23 on (Indiscernible *00:22:41)? Was there any -? 24 Can you talk to someone about how that would 25 (Indiscernible *00:22:44), or not? EFTA00113505 25 1 MR. EPSTEIN: I will ask, if I can get you 2 the (Indiscernible *00:22:46). 3 : Okay. 4 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:22:52) it 5 was there at night. (Indiscernible *00:23:11). 6 MR. EPSTEIN: I've also heard that 7 there's, like, 20 plus guards that were, like, 8 there that, furlough, that haven't worked 9 since. (Indiscernible *00:23:24). 10 : That's the same noose on the 11 floor? 12 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 13 MS. RICHMAN: Absolutely. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 15 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:23:35). 16 Back to the tier. 17 : Okay. 18 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. That's -. Yeah. 19 Yeah. That's not cut. It's kind of 20 (Indiscernible *00:23:45). And it's not, you 21 know, I mean, it's pretty standard sizes, I 22 believe. And this would be discolored from the 23 secretions of his neck, (Indiscernible 24 *00:23:54). Things I will also tell you is 25 that, in 2016 election, my brother didn't tell EFTA00113506 26 1 me why he (Indiscernible *00:24:08). What he 2 told me is he said what he knew about 3 (Indiscernible *00:24:10), Trump (Indiscernible 4 *00:24:13), because they would have to cancel 5 the election. 6 My brother is also (Indiscernible 7 *00:24:19). He's worked with Steve Bannon, 8 who's worked with (Indiscernible *00:24:19). 9 Steve Bannon has 16 hours of video tape. 10 (Indiscernible *00:24:27). I know this because 11 my brother said he worked with him. And on 12 that day, he said he stopped hanging out with 13 Trump, when he realized (Indiscernible 14 *00:24:37). In the papers, they're reading he 15 stopped hanging out with Trump, and, like, he 16 fell apart (Indiscernible *00:24:39). It was 17 bullshit. Everybody was, like, (Indiscernible 18 *00:24:44). He stopped hanging out with Trump 19 when he realized Trump was a dick. That's 20 exactly what he said. And I think 21 (Indiscernible *00:24:57). All right. And I 22 don't have any proof, but if this was a murder, 23 then the government would probably 24 (Indiscernible *00:25:05). And I Know, also, 25 that hurting somebody else in a federal prison, EFTA00113507 27 1 that the DEA agent transported to a maximum 2 security. He's a real bad ass and carried on, 3 and felt even worse. You know, he was brought 4 out to be (Indiscernible *00:25:21). They 5 handcuffed him before they uncuff him, and he 6 was a DEA agent who was getting the credibility 7 as a criminal, as a bad guy. A troublemaker. 8 (Indiscernible *00:25:30). So, it's justice 9 from, you can put people in prison that have 10 (Indiscernible *00:25:34). 11 : Okay. 12 MR. EPSTEIN: That's (Indiscernible 13 *00:25:35). I was told that by somebody. So, 14 yeah. So, also, the thing I wanted to show you 15 here, the reason I - honestly, to be honest 16 with you - I think Trump is behind it. If 17 someone was closer on the inside told me Trump 18 (Indiscernible *00:25:53), after his death, you 19 know, someone who knows more about this shit 20 than I do. 21 : Well, when you say that 22 Trump was a crook, or that your brother said 23 that he (Indiscernible *00:26:00), can you give 24 more information other than just that? 25 MR. EPSTEIN: No. He didn't tell me that, EFTA00113508 28 1 but if you were a legal busines man, you would 2 know that Trump is a crook. Everybody knows 3 trump is a crook. That's why no legitimate 4 real estate people would deal with him. 5 : And when you say, 6 "Crook," though, can you just kind of - 7 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. He -- 8 : -- explain that. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: he robs people. He 10 probably close to the wealth he has comes from 11 the money he didn't pay people. He screwed 12 over, over and over. And he gets - pays them, 13 like, a percentage of what he owes them, they 14 sign non-disclosure agreements. That's how he 15 slides. And everybody knew that. Yeah. 16 : All right. 17 (VIDEO PLAYS) 18 MR. EPSTEIN: Now, this video was from 19 before my brother's death. (Indiscernible 20 *00:26:49). But wait, I'm going to get to the 21 beginning of the part. 22 MS. RICHMAN: Some of the information 23 about that is also (Indiscernible *00:27:03), 24 when you were talking about (Indiscernible 25 *00:27:08). EFTA00113509 29 1 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, let me see if I can 2 (Indiscernible *00:27:12). Oh, he asked them 3 (Indiscernible *00:27:17). All right. So, 4 this is before he died. 5 : So, we're looking at -- 6 MR. EPSTEIN: I've met Trump. 7 -- President Trump there, 8 as well as a news reporter. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly. 10 : Bill O'Reilly. 11 MR. EPSTEIN: (Indiscernible *00:27:54). 12 13 done? : Do you know when that was 14 MR. EPSTEIN: It was prior to the death. 15 That was. 16 : Prior to the death. 17 MR. EPSTEIN: But, you know, I mean, 18 personally, I think Trump was jealous that 19 people (Indiscernible *00:28:06), and wanted to 20 take that power. That's (Indiscernible 21 *00:28:09) to Trump. (Indiscernible 22 *00:28:14). You know? 23 MS. RICHMAN: I noticed that's not your 24 strongest argument. 25 MR. EPSTEIN: No. It's not my strongest EFTA00113510 30 1 argument. It's, that's an opinion. Okay? But 2 this is my strongest argument. 3 : So, when is the last time 4 you spoke with Jeffrey? 5 MR. EPSTEIN: The Thursday night before he 6 was arrested. 7 : DO you remember around 8 when that date would have been? 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. July 8th and 9th or 10 something. 11 : Okay. 12 MR. EPSTEIN: On a Thursday night. 13 : So, 2019? 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Yeah. It was right 15 before his death. So, he called me if he was 16 in Paris. He called me, just the usual, you 17 know, (Indiscernible *00:28:41). You know? 18 And then, the next day, he, you know, flew 19 back. And he was arrested that Friday. 20 (Indiscernible *00:28:50). Saturday morning, 21 his attorneys called me and told me he was 22 arrested. 23 : And how often would you 24 talk with Jeffrey up until then? 25 MR. EPSTEIN: We would talk every couple EFTA00113511 31 1 of weeks, or something like that. A week. A 2 month. That, you know, we emailed something. 3 Whatever. You know? Just keep trying, and I 4 keep telling him what's happening with the 5 family stuff, and we (Indiscernible *00:29:08) 6 stories. When - he used to hang out with Billy 7 Idol, though. So, he would tell me funny 8 things that we had on set. I guess Billy Idol 9 is a funny guy. 10 : So -- 11 MR. EPSTEIN: You know, we just use 12 (Indiscernible *00:29:17) other. Just keep 13 check. 14 : I don't know where we 15 heard this information from, but I was told, I 16 was informed that you were estranged for, like, 17 a number of years. Is that not correct? 18 MR. EPSTEIN: No. No. 19 MS. RICHMAN: You hadn't seen him. 20 MR. EPSTEIN: I haven't seen him. 21 : Okay. 22 MR. EPSTEIN: My mother died in 2004. Or 23 - yeah -. 2004. Since that time, maybe I saw 24 him a handful of times. And the last time was 25 seven years prior to his death. EFTA00113512 32 1 : Okay. SO, you hadn't 2 seen him for seven years 3 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 4 : -- but you spoke over the 5 telephone a number of few weeks? 6 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah, yeah. And emailed. 7 Yeah. Yeah. 8 : Okay. And email? 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. It's, like, for 10 instance, I mean, I have the email exchange, 11 and when he sent me the video clip, that back 12 (Indiscernible *00:29:52), you know? And I 13 asked him, you know, what was this for. You 14 know, and he said the (Indiscernible *00:30:00) 15 testimony. I said, you were subpoenaed? 16 : Mm-hmm. 17 MR. EPSTEIN: He said, no. (Indiscernible 18 *00:30:03). He was just, he was doing stuff. 19 And, you know, he just, he said he, I thought 20 (Indiscernible *00:30:09), he thought I would 21 find it funny. I remember, it was, like, he 22 was had a beer in the video, and I've never 23 seen my brother with a beer before. So, I 24 wrote back. I said, the funniest part is, you 25 were with a beer. And he wrote back and he EFTA00113513 33 1 said, that you could tell who I was? My 2 disguise didn't work? You know, it was just, 3 it was just banter between two brothers. 4 (Indiscernible *00:30:26). 5 : So -. 6 MR. EPSTEIN: So, that was the last time I 7 spoke to him, was that Thursday night before he 8 was (Indiscernible *00:30:32). 9 : Okay. Do you know 10 anything about his state of mind leading up to 11 -- 12 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. I know who he spoke 13 to the day before he died. 14 : And who did he speak 15 with? 16 MR. EPSTEIN: He spoke to someone who was 17 close to him. I mean, and they had 18 (Indiscernible *00:30:45). Not a clue 19 (Indiscernible *00:30:45) that this happened. 20 And most of his, one of the attorneys gave a 21 (Indiscernible *00:30:50) was publicly saying 22 that he spoke to Jeffrey, Jeffrey was very 23 upbeat. He also thought he had good taste, 24 using (Indiscernible *00:30:56) non-prosecution 25 agreement he had, from Florida, from years EFTA00113514 34 1 back. So, and also, when Jeffrey was first 2 arrested, his attorneys called me and asked me 3 if I would, back and help him with his bail. 4 They said it's (Indiscernible *00:31:12) 5 other people, (Indiscernible *00:31:13) 6 participate in the bail. Because they should. 7 (Indiscernible *00:31:15). And then, Jeffrey 8 was not going to flee. He wasn't flee. 9 (Indiscernible *00:31:19). Not that he would 10 do that anyhow. Because he (Indiscernible 11 *00:31:23). And that's what put me on the map. 12 Most people didn't even know Jeff had a 13 brother. 14 : Okay. 15 MR. EPSTEIN: We had a social life 16 together. And so, that's where my head, dating 17 back, you know, refer to it as a (Indiscernible 18 *00:31:36) proctologist. Every journalist on 19 the planet would (Indiscernible *00:31:38) to 20 try to find some dirt on me, to try to make me 21 tell this kind of stuff. (Indiscernible 22 *00:31:45). But yeah, he had two separate 23 lives. And so, bail was denied. And then, he 24 had a bail hearing coming up two days after he 25 died. EFTA00113515 35 1 And this time - and he was pretty up, 2 like, you know, his jets, the house, those 100 3 million dollars' worth of stuff for the bail. 4 The highest bail in the United Sates ever was 5 100 million dollars. So, (Indiscernible 6 *00:32:09). But that's the highest bail they 7 ruled on. When they were going through the 8 appeal on the bail, his attorneys called me up 9 and they asked me if I would guarantee his 10 entire bail. And it has since doubled. And I 11 agreed to it. 12 : Okay. 13 MR. EPSTEIN: And so, there might have 14 been a chance he got bail in two days. 15 MS. RICHMAN: Right. 16 MR. EPSTEIN: And then, he would have been 17 under house arrest. He would have paid for 18 guards. They would have an ankle monitor. 19 Camera. Whatever it would take to do this all. 20 So, if you - and I think, you know, if he was 21 going to go take himself out, wait two fucking 22 days. You know, if you got bail, then you at 23 least, you're home for a year before the trial 24 comes up, if nothing else. (Indiscernible 25 *00:32:46). Doesn't make sense. EFTA00113516 36 1 : Yeah. 2 MR. EPSTEIN: If Jeffrey went. I don't 3 think Jeffrey would do that. 4 : SO, you did actually 5 agree to the bail 6 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 7 : -- to (Indiscernible 8 *00:32:54) close to the bail? 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 10 : And that was two days 11 after he was found? 12 MR. EPSTEIN: No, no, no. 13 MS. RICHMAN: That's the day 14 MR. EPSTEIN: The hearing was supposed to 15 -. I agree 16 : That's right. 17 MR. EPSTEIN: -- I agreed before he was 18 dead, but the hearing was supposed to take 19 place -. Like, he died, I think it was August 20 9th. Or something. The hearing was scheduled 21 for, like, 11th or something. There was, like, 22 a two-day gap. 23 : And then, do you remember 24 how much the bail was? 25 MR. EPSTEIN: Close to 100 million. EFTA00113517 37 1 : It was close to 100? 2 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 3 : Okay. 4 : Still, just to clarify, you 5 mentioned 100 million dollar bail, and you 6 guaranteed it on top of it. So, that was 7 technically 200 million? 8 MR. EPSTEIN: Right. And his friend David 9 Mitchell put up some. I don't know how much 10 David put up. But he was also in the initial 11 pool at first, (Indiscernible *00:33:31) house. 12 IN Florida. David had also put up some 13 (Indiscernible *00:33:35). David Michell is 14 the one who -. The friend. And I heard he was 15 reaching, you know, (Indiscernible *00:33:40). 16 : Now, as far as the person 17 that he - were you saying that he spoke with 18 someone on the telephone, prior to August 9th 19 or 10th? 20 MR. EPSTEIN: The night -- 21 : Or something. 22 MR. EPSTEIN: -- the evening before he 23 died, because it was (Indiscernible *00:33:54), 24 yeah. 25 : And was that a female? EFTA00113518 38 1 2 3 4 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes, it was. : And do you want to say the name of it, and ask if that's correct. : Is the name 5 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 6 : Is that who he spoke to? 7 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 8 : And you spoke to Who is 9 to Mr. Epstein? 10 MR. EPSTEIN: A friend. 11 : A childhood friend, a long- 12 time friend? 13 MR. EPSTEIN: A number of years. 14 : Were they in a relationship, 15 or -? 16 MR. EPSTEIN: His exact nature of it, I 17 don't know, because I didn't know of her. But 18 I know she's been -. I just found out she was 19 in the picture a number of years. I believe 20 eight years. 21 : In a romantic relationship? 22 MR. EPSTEIN: I believe so. Yeah. 23 MS. RICHMAN: But you didn't know 24 confirmation? You had, like -. 25 MR. EPSTEIN: I can't ask Jeff. EFTA00113519 39 1 MS. RICHMAN: Right. Obviously. 2 : Have you spoken with her? 3 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 4 : And did she say that htye 5 were in a romantic relationship? 6 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. (Indiscernible 7 *00:34:44). 8 : She did? 9 MR. EPSTEIN: I believe it to be so, and I 10 found pictures. 11 : And have you seen -? 12 Have you spoken with her since August 9, 2019? 13 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. Yes. 14 : Did she tell you what the 15 conversation, took place during (Indiscernible 16 *00:34:55)? 17 MR. EPSTEIN: He said he was It 18 sounded upbeat, and is that she didn't think he 19 committed suicide. It was -. It didn't sound 20 like he was going to do that. 21 : But did she say anything 22 that they talked about, though? 23 MR. EPSTEIN: No. I didn't want to get 24 too personal. And, you know, at the time it wa 25 , like, you know, my brother is dead, I EFTA00113520 40 1 (Indiscernible *00:35:08) conversation that I 2 need to know. You know? 3 : When did you speak with 4 her? 5 MR. EPSTEIN: A number of times since 6 then. 7 : Okay. But when you 8 specifically talked about the conversation that 9 she had with Jeffrey, (Indiscernible 10 *00:35:18)? 11 MR. EPSTEIN: That was I don't 12 remember the exact date. But I think it was 13 just a few weeks of the death. 14 : Okay. But she didn't 15 tell you anything specifically why he contacted 16 her, or what they spoke about? 17 MR. EPSTEIN: No. 18 : No. Just that he sounded 19 upbeat? 20 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. He was. Yeah. 21 That's, like, she made (Indiscernible 22 *00:35:41). 23 : Okay. 24 : Was she surprised that he 25 called her? EFTA00113521 41 1 MR. EPSTEIN: I don't -. I don't know if 2 -. I don't know. To be honest with you. I 3 didn't ask her that much. She didn't say, oh, 4 shit, yeah, I didn't get any kind of reaction 5 from her. (Indiscernible *00:35:41) 6 : All right. 7 : Do you know if Jeffrey 8 changed his will leading up to August 9th? 9 MR. EPSTEIN: I was told he changed his 10 will. He did. Now, traditionally, my brother 11 and I were not in each other's wills. Because 12 I don't need his money, he don't need my money. 13 So, he changed the will, from my understanding. 14 Now, I'm not the executive of his estate. It 15 has nothing to do with his estate. The 16 executives don't even talk to me. 17 (Indiscernible *00:36:23) or anything. But 18 from what I understand, all of his assets were 19 put into a trust. Or they were supposed to be 20 put into a trust, after Jeffrey died. And they 21 paid out all the money to the victims, and his 22 (Indiscernible *00:36:35). And the trust 23 dictates what happens to his money. I'm not 24 the trustee and I'm not privy to his trust. 25 : Who did you hear it from, EFTA00113522 42 1 that he put it in the will? He changed his 2 will. 3 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, it was public 4 knowledge. Yeah. And his attorneys also told 5 me that he changed his will. But this is in 6 the papers. This was (Indiscernible 7 *00:36:55). And he was trying to use that as, 8 well, he was contemplating suicide. I think 9 maybe he was contemplating being killed in 10 prison and wanted to make sure that his will 11 was up to date. I don't think it was fear -. 12 I don't think it was fear of suicide. I think, 13 you know, I don't think he was planning 14 suicide. I think anything, he was 15 (Indiscernible *00:37:14) about being in 16 prison. (Indiscernible *00:37:16) stories. 17 : And do you know anything 18 about him, like, being placed on suicide watch, 19 and taken off? Do you know anything -? 20 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. He was placed on 21 suicide watch, and he was taken off. Exactly 22 the reasons? I don't know. They never told 23 me. 24 : Do you know if anyone 25 from the outside, such as his attorneys, or EFTA00113523 43 1 anybody like that, called anyone to ask him to 2 be taken off of suicide watch? 3 MR. EPSTEIN: Only what was in the papers. 4 So -- 5 : Okay. 6 MR. EPSTEIN: so, I don't have any 7 first-hand knowledge of it. 8 : And you've never gotten 9 to speak to his attorneys? They never 10 disclosed the information? 11 MR. EPSTEIN: Not very much. No. Hmm-mm. 12 : Okay. So, just the 13 papers. Other than having that conversation 14 with (Indiscernible *00:37:53), have you spoken 15 with anyone on the outside? 16 MR. EPSTEIN: No. 17 : Right? 18 MR. EPSTEIN: Oh, so, David Shone 19 (Phonetic Sp. *00:37:56), the attorney, who was 20 going to go ask me, because he also said that 21 (Indiscernible *00:38:01) suicide. Yeah. I 22 was surprised because he felt -. He said Jeff 23 felt positive about the defense they were going 24 to go with, you know, in the prosecution. 25 : And David Shone met them on EFTA00113524 44 1 Friday? 2 MR. EPSTEIN: Excuse me? 3 : You mentioned a David Shone 4 met with them on Friday. 5 MR. EPSTEIN: No, no, no, no, no. David 6 Shone, had met with him in jail, I think, 7 before he died. Not that day. I think it was 8 before. 9 : You mentioned something about 10 a non-prosecution from Florida. Can you 11 explain that? 12 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. In 2006, I think it 13 was, when he first got in trouble in Florida, 14 you know, when he got back whatever, he got his 15 sweetheart deal. Which I was told, he got a 16 sweetheart deal because the girls that were 17 planning to be victims were actually - 18 determined to be very unreliable witnesses. 19 Because they found their Facebook pages with 20 drugs and sex. And one of the girls was a 21 prostitute and a mother, you know, all kinds of 22 -. 23 These are not clean-cut little Catholic 24 school girls. You know, so, he got - made the 25 deal back in 2006, and part of the deal was he EFTA00113525 45 1 had to sign the prosecution agreement for him 2 and the other unnamed individuals. I don't 3 know. It's -. And that's what he was living 4 on ever since. You know, just, there was this 5 note, from what I understand, I haven't seen 6 any e videne that he was with underaged women. 7 At that point in time. Like, get out of jail, 8 and then, you know, 13 months never see that. 9 (Indiscernible *00:39:23). 10 He got a house. You know, he got a -. 11 (Indiscernible *00:39:29). He got a good deal. 12 After that, I mean, we used to - there's a 13 joke. You know, and I told him, you know, I'm 14 his brother and said, some passports scare him, 15 (Indiscernible *00:39:39). So, a girl comes 16 in, wants to show him that she's in the estate 17 team. Yeah, you have -. You know, we're 18 joking around. So, and as far as I know, there 19 have been no claims of him being with underaged 20 women. And all the stuff that he, well, I 21 don't think it's the case, but yes. 22 : You mentioned the non- 23 prosecution agreement, as the fact that he 24 believed he was getting out of prison. 25 MR. EPSTEIN: No, no. He got out of EFTA00113526 46 1 prison. He served his time he was sentenced 2 to. But at that time - and this is public - he 3 had a non-prosecution agreement with the 4 federal government. You know, the same one, 5 that was the southern district, or whatever, 6 what Florida park, or I don't know, the, like, 7 the lingo. I don't get in trouble, so I'm not 8 up on the (Indiscernible *00:40:21). You know, 9 and, you know, as far as I know, this one is 10 federal government. 11 : (Indiscernible 12 *00:40:24) 13 MR. EPSTEIN: And if you make a deal in a 14 non-prosecution agreement, with the federal 15 government, well, that's the federal 16 government. It's not like the New York people, 17 federal here have the right to (Indiscernible 18 *00:40:33) Greenland. 19 : Yeah. Greenland. 20 MR. EPSTEIN: So, was it, why was it your 21 SD? You know, another theory about that -- 22 : Mm-hmm. 23 MR. EPSTEIN: -- okay, is that in the 24 screen, before he was arrested, one of the 25 victims went to the FBI, and said that she was EFTA00113527 47 1 in his house, it was down on First Street, and 2 he had this expensive camera system, and boom, 3 boom, boom, go to the bathroom, all this kind 4 of stuff. Now, the one thing about Jeffrey is 5 that Jeffrey was a bullshitter. He would say 6 things just to be provocative. 7 Now, he had a very extensive video room, 8 when we first walk into the house on the right. 9 Because I was there years ago. With lots of 10 monitors. But they were all on the outside of 11 the building, for security. And inside the 12 front door, and inside the backdoor. There 13 wasn't cameras throughout the house. And I've 14 spoken with people who knew the house, people 15 who worked at the house. And they, like I 16 said, that extensive video system, that house 17 didn't exist. 18 But the FBI got this information that it 19 did. And then, a few months later, he gets 20 arrested, and they break into his house with a 21 search warrant, and I would like to see that 22 search warrant. This is what -. Because in 23 the search warrant, you have to state what 24 you're looking for. Right? You can't use it 25 as a fishing net to -. So, what is it they EFTA00113528 48 1 were looking for? Because they broke into his 2 house, and they cut the safe open. But you 3 heard that he had about $70,000 in cash, and 4 diamonds. 5 Well, he's a very wealthy man. He does 6 not have cash and diamonds. You know, and he 7 had some expired, old passport for some 8 (Indiscernible *00:41:55). (Indiscernible 9 *00:41:57) long story for that. But what were 10 they looking for? Who was (Indiscernible 11 *00:42:00) to get into this house to look for - 12 ? Who were they looking for? Are they looking 13 for the tapes of somebody on the street? They 14 had some tapes. They're not exist. Which 15 didn't exist. 16 And then, he was arrested, and you know, 17 it's cool. And like I said, he set you up as a 18 crook. I said, he had enough word on both gang 19 weights to have the election cancelled in 2016. 20 This doesn't alleviate -. If you forget 21 everything else, everything I showed you here, 22 and everything you 23 say, yes, it was a 24 not because - like know now, would you just suicide? I wouldn't. And I said - not because I'm his 25 brother. It just doesn't add up as a suicide. EFTA00113529 49 1 Like I said, and trust me, if he committed 2 suicide, my life would have been a lot easier 3 this time. 4 I've had death threats, I've been in touch 5 with the FBI and NYPD for those two years. And 6 I have hired armed guards for. When I met with 7 Steve Bannon, after I saw the tape that my 8 brother sent me after his death, I contacted 9 Steve Bannon, and I'm (Indiscernible *00:43:02) 10 what this is about. You know? And I know that 11 Bannon, I actually had a (Indiscernible 12 *00:43:07). I didn't, because I didn't know 13 who was (Indiscernible *00:43:11). I knew him 14 walking to a hotel, and be taking out the 15 garbage (Indiscernible *00:43:13), like the 16 show, you know? 17 And armed guards. And Bannon's told me 18 about the 16 hours of tape, and he told me that 19 the -. He said that the tape should protect 20 him, and that by attorney/client privilege, as 21 witnessed preparation. But Bannon is not an 22 attorney. 23 : And which tapes are we 24 talking about right now? 25 MR. EPSTEIN: The 16 hours of video tape EFTA00113530 50 1 interviews that (Indiscernible *00:43:33) with 2 my brother. 3 : Off of what we've talked 4 about, at least thus far, who do you think we 5 should speak with, that would have the 6 firsthand knowledge, that would be willing to 7 speak with us? 8 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, I think you should 9 talk to the guards. The EMT guards. 10 , and I think it's 11 (Phonetic Sp. *00:43:52). Or something 12 . Those are the two EMT guards. 13 : Mm-hmm. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Find out from them who was 15 directing the operations in the prison. Why 16 did they move the body out when they weren't 17 supposed to move the body out? Who was 18 directing them? Who was there? 19 : Okay. 20 MR. EPSTEIN: And then, in the hospital, 21 when he was there, I mean, I don't know, do the 22 fire department guys wear body cameras? 23 : Mm-hmm. 24 MR. EPSTEIN: EMTs? I don't know. You 25 know, but in a - like I said - there was a EFTA00113531 51 1 handful camera in the hospital, when they took 2 him, there were four people there. Two EMTs 3 and two other people, and someone would have a 4 video camera of that. And why did they dress 5 him in a hospital gown? 6 : Okay. 7 MR. EPSTEIN: You know, why are they 8 trying to make him look -? Like, Bannon told 9 me there is a prison culture here. Nobody dies 10 in prison. You know, they find a dead body, 11 they ship them to the hospital, and it's 12 declared dead in the hospital. That's 13 traditional in the prison system. Because they 14 don't want to deal with the dead body in 15 prison. And that seems to be (Indiscernible 16 *00:44:52), as well. But what are they trying 17 to, you know, to take him out, trying to 18 intubate him. These guys are trained. Yeah, 19 now they know he's not coming back. 20 : Yeah. 21 MR. EPSTEIN: So, why this charade? And 22 why are we in here, there was a camera guy 23 there. Right? Who took the photographs. You 24 got people questioning, how did he know to be 25 there? EFTA00113532 52 1 : Mm-hmm. 2 MR. EPSTEIN: Why was he there by the 3 prison early that morning, to take photographs 4 and (Indiscernible *00:45:16), no doubt. 5 : Which camera guy are you 6 talking about? 7 MS. RICHMAN: The guy that had 8 (Indiscernible *00:45:19) poster. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. I knew his name. 10 (Phonetic Sp. *00:45:25). I believe 11 it was 12 : He was at the hospital, 13 or he was at the prison? 14 MR. EPSTEIN: At the prison. 15 MS. RICHMAN: At MCC. 16 : Okay. 17 : When Mr. Epstein was being 18 rolled out? 19 MS. RICHMAN: Yup. 20 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. He's on the gurney, 21 and he's covered in a sheet. They have a neck 22 brace on him, and they -. He's intubated. 23 They have a thing down his throat, and that 24 squeezing one of those, the A balloons, to try 25 to get air into his lungs. Yeah. Which you EFTA00113533 53 1 use on, like, drowning victims, and 2 (Indiscernible *00:45:51). 3 So, I was, like, why, you know, why this 4 charade? And also, from the time they got 5 there, they took him down, there's no pulse. 6 Obviously. He's not breathing. You know, the 7 body can only last a few minutes under that 8 condition. So, what -? They got up there. He 9 was found dead, you know, they do whatever they 10 do in there, they cut him open, they try to 11 defibrillate him. Right? Because that's the 12 thing on the other picture, the defibrillator 13 angle. And there's electric cord in the room 14 because he slept with a CPAP machine. 15 Which, I didn't know he used one. But 16 turns out he did. And he was in the room with 17 his electric cord. You know, and, oh, in the 18 photographs, let me see if I can find this 19 photo here. 20 : Why are you looking that up? 21 I know, you might have answered this. Did you 22 have any communications with him when he was in 23 prison? 24 MR. EPSTEIN: No. 25 : Did he email you, or call you EFTA00113534 54 1 -- 2 MR. EPSTEIN: No. 3 : -- anything like that? 4 MR. EPSTEIN: Nope. 5 : What about any other family 6 members? 7 : As said, did he 8 contact anybody -? 9 : Did he contact any of the 10 family members? 11 MR. EPSTEIN: No. And there's no one in 12 the family. 13 : So, you don't know 14 anybody, aside from his attorneys, 15 (Indiscernible *00:46:52) who spoke to 16 (Indiscernible *00:46:53) on his night, or 17 spoke to (Indiscernible *00:46:54)? 18 MR. EPSTEIN: No. No. 19 : He spoke with you? 20 MR. EPSTEIN: I sent him a letter in 21 prison. I have no idea if he ever got it. 22 (Indiscernible *00:47:00). 23 : In terms of siblings, you 24 were the only sibling? 25 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. EFTA00113535 55 1 : The parents? 2 MR. EPSTEIN: Deceased. 3 : Deceased. 4 : Okay. 5 MR. EPSTEIN: My father died in '91. 30 6 years ago. And my mother died in 2004. 7 : 2004? 8 MR. EPSTEIN: 2004. 9 : Okay. 10 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah, they were older. It 11 was right around when Jeff first got in trouble 12 in 2006. He called me, and asked me if I'm at 13 his house, which is, you know, like, after my 14 mother died, I moved back, (Indiscernible 15 *00:47:33), because most of our communications, 16 it seems Jeff was rather (Indiscernible 17 *00:47:36), health issues, and being close to 18 the family. Like, he called me to his house, 19 because he wanted to tell me himself that he 20 was getting in trouble. You know, for 21 (Indiscernible *00:47:47). And the first thing 22 I said to him, I said, well, (Indiscernible 23 *00:47:50) mom's dead. It's looking like 24 they're about to kill her. (Indiscernible 25 *00:47:53) some issues. So. EFTA00113536 56 1 : How long did you take 2 care -? So, you said that you had ghosted a 3 large part of (Indiscernible *00:48:04) life. 4 (Indiscernible *00:48:06). And how much do you 5 (Indiscernible *00:48:11)? 6 MR. EPSTEIN: You can hold - whatever his 7 bail was. 8 : And (Indiscernible 9 *00:48:13)? 10 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, his bail, his bail 11 itself was 100, plus 100 million. Somewhere in 12 that. I don't know the exact number. No. But 13 whatever it was, I paid them. 14 : Yeah. Okay. 15 MR. EPSTEIN: I have his (Indiscernible 16 *00:48:22). 17 : (Indiscernible 18 *00:48:23). 19 MR. EPSTEIN: Mm-hmm. 20 : (Indiscernible *00:48:26) 21 the house in Florida? 22 MR. EPSTEIN: The house in Florida is a 23 small part. 24 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:48:30). 25 MR. EPSTEIN: Technically the first bail EFTA00113537 57 1 he called me and asked me if I would 2 participate in his bail, because he's 3 explaining that it's a better show if other 4 people are willing to (Indiscernible 5 *00:48:39). 6 : Okay. 7 MR. EPSTEIN: So, I said, sure, put in my 8 house in Florida. 9 : (Indiscernible 10 *00:48:45)? 11 MR. EPSTEIN: That's worth $200,000. 12 That's not (Indiscernible *00:48:48). And 13 then, come the appeal. You know, 14 (Indiscernible *00:48:54) days, but prior to 15 his death. They called me and they explained 16 that, you know, they're going to this appeal, 17 and he was pretty much, you know, at the house, 18 which you can find (Indiscernible *00:49:01) 19 house. I think he was in jail for 20 (Indiscernible *00:49:05), you know, a couple, 21 close to 100 nights. They asked me if I would 22 guarantee his (Indiscernible *00:49:10). I 23 said yes. So, I don't remember the exact 24 number, but he wasn't worried about it. 25 Because like I said -- EFTA00113538 58 1 : No, no, no. I'm just -- 2 MR. EPSTEIN: -- I'm just going to show 3 up. 4 : -- for (Indiscernible 5 *00:49:19), especially when we had heard that 6 you guys are estranged, but if I can say my 7 guess would be that you actually weren't, and 8 you actually agreed to post the bail, and 9 (Indiscernible *00:49:28) how much money was 10 it? 11 MR. EPSTEIN: Up to, it was somewhere in 12 the range of 100 million. 13 : Okay. You got that type 14 of money? 15 MR. EPSTEIN: (Indiscernible *00:49:40). 16 You'll see. Mm-hmm. 17 : But you mentioned 18 another. There was one other person, I thought 19 you said, that was also involved? 20 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. David Mitchell. 21 That's (Indiscernible *00:49:50). 22 : Just the two of you? 23 MR. EPSTEIN: As far as I know, yeah. 24 That's the only people I've ever known. Yeah. 25 MS. RICHMAN: I don't know if that bail EFTA00113539 59 1 application was final. It might be 2 (Indiscernible *00:49:58). 3 : Okay. 4 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. Give me 5 (Indiscernible *00:50:10) for this. 6 : And it was Jeffrey's lawyers 7 that reached out to you about that? 8 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, the one lawyer 10 he works in prison (Indiscernible 11 *00:50:30). He (Indiscernible *00:50:31). 12 : Okay. 13 MR. EPSTEIN: Actually, yeah, a long time 14 ago. Like, 30 years ago. He worked in a law 15 firm, and Jeffrey and I both used that law 16 firm. I used it for law stuff. (Indiscernible 17 *00:50:41). Always there. But I haven't seen 18 him in a very long time. Until this 19 (Indiscernible *00:50:48). So, he might be 20 personal. Yeah. Okay. In these pictures, 21 he's by the cell. You see this electric cord 22 here is, like, in the room access. He would 23 have to have the door, the door swung open, and 24 the electric cord was there. That was I think 25 his defibrillator or something. And I've seen EFTA00113540 60 1 that machine. But you could see there is an 2 electric cord. In that picture of the electric 3 cord. (Indiscernible *00:52:22). What is 4 that? Yeah, and in the picture I'm looking 5 for, it shows that electric cord, really. It's 6 plugged into the extension on the other side of 7 the door. So, it was obviously moved. 8 : (Indiscernible 9 *00:53:13). 10 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Let me go back. Let 11 me get rid of this and go back. It says 12 (Indiscernible *00:53:23). 13 : Okay. Are these for 14 scenes for us, (Indiscernible *00:53:27)? 15 MR. EPSTEIN: No. This is my only copy of 16 these. 17 : Okay. 18 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. Here. Oh. Oh, 19 fucking hell. All right. You see here, the 20 electric cord is on the outside of the room. 21 And the other picture, the door was opened, and 22 this knot and stuff was on the inside of the 23 door. So, somebody moved that for some reason. 24 Because he didn't (Indiscernible *00:53:54). 25 And it's just, like, a discrepancy EFTA00113541 61 1 (Indiscernible *00:53:59). 2 : I see. 3 MR. EPSTEIN: And supposedly, there was a 4 lot of activity after he was gone. At least 5 that you can see in the picture. 6 : So, it's always good for 7 us to have (Indiscernible *00:54:10), along 8 with the photographs, and perhaps the 9 (Indiscernible *00:54:12). 10 MR. EPSTEIN: I can make copies and send 11 it to you. 12 : Oh my, that would be 13 great. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: No problem. 15 : (Indiscernible 16 *00:54:18). 17 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 18 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *00:54:19). 19 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah, give me your cards, 20 and I'll send you 21 : Okay. 22 MR. EPSTEIN: so you guys can 23 : Okay. Well, if there is 24 anything (Indiscernible *00:54:26), if 25 something else that we're missing, there's EFTA00113542 62 1 (Indiscernible *00:54:32). 2 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 3 : Just let us know. 4 : When you first started 5 (Indiscernible *00:54:39), were you aware that 6 Mr. Epstein went through his life, he 7 (Indiscernible *00:54:43) with his life, you 8 didn't seem surprised. Were you surprised? 9 MR. EPSTEIN: I wasn't surprised. I'm 10 pretty level-headed. You know? So, I don't 11 So, these don't surprise me. I've seen a lot 12 of shit in my life. You know? I haven't been 13 in the military, but military people have told 14 me I should have been in the military. Because 15 I'm always the one with the cool head, you 16 know, when all shit breaks loose. So, I wasn't 17 surprised. It was a little bit shocking that 18 he was dead. But like I said, I assumed, okay, 19 you heard on CNN that he committed suicide. 20 So, you originally you don't have reason to 21 question. 22 You just assume that that's the case. I 23 mean, that and the reason that he committed 24 suicide. And I - again - knowing, you know, 25 that he was potentially facing the long term EFTA00113543 63 1 prison sentence, he didn't have kids to worry 2 about. He didn't have to worry about me. Our 3 parents are dead. There's no other relative 4 that he was close to. In that way. So, I 5 assumed, okay. That's what he did. You know? 6 But as I finished my breakfast, you know, it's 7 -. But, you know, I didn't, and like I said, I 8 assumed if that was his choice, then I respect 9 that. 10 Because, look, if I was in his shoes, I 11 have kids, you know, like I said, if I didn't 12 have kids, and I was potentially facing what I 13 did, you know, we're not religious people, you 14 know, we were both raised atheists. So, you 15 know, we don't have that kind of fears or 16 anything. Yeah, I might choose to take myself 17 out. But I would certainly wait for the bail 18 hearing to pass. That's what (Indiscernible 19 *00:56:18). And Jeffrey wasn't a stupid man. 20 So, you know, I'm sure he would wait for that, 21 as well. Because it doesn't make sense to kill 22 himself two days before a bail hearing, where 23 your bail is going to be the highest bail ever 24 in the United States, with a guarantee. 25 : I know you mentioned you EFTA00113544 64 1 didn't communicate with him after his arrest, 2 his last arrest in July, but before that, did 3 he ever mention about possibly committing 4 suicide? Was he ever depressed? 5 MR. EPSTEIN: No. Never. Never. Never. 6 No. 7 : Did he ever show any 8 tendencies towards wanting to take his life? 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Never. Never. No. That 10 wasn't him. He had no reason to. He had, 11 like, the -. He had a life that you and me, go 12 anywhere we want. He had more money than God. 13 He did what he wanted. You know, if he wanted 14 to do it with me, if he had yes people 15 surrounding him, who catered his eye way. 16 : Right. 17 MR. EPSTEIN: Flying around on his private 18 jets. He has the (Indiscernible *00:57:08) all 19 over the place. Lots of women. You know? He 20 doesn't -. Side story. My mother was 21 (Indiscernible *00:57:14), you know, obviously, 22 you're going to settle down. And I said to 23 her, I said, he hasn't settled down because if 24 he found a quality woman to settle down with, 25 instead of these bimbos that he's hanging out EFTA00113545 65 1 with, she would eventually say, you know, why 2 don't we do this instead of that. That was 3 what he wanted. I said, and that's why she 4 gets shown the door. Because he didn't want to 5 do anything that he didn't want to do. That 6 was -. And he was able to have his life that 7 way. There was no reason for him to kill 8 himself or think about killing himself. 9 : Now -- 10 MR. EPSTEIN: He was healthy. He wasn't 11 facing any medical issues, or whatever. You 12 know, (Indiscernible *00:57:44). Mm-hmm. 13 : -- being his brother, and 14 knowing him the way you do, do you think that 15 the bail, if he was actually going to be 16 released, would he have any fear of being out 17 in public, because people then now perceiving 18 him a certain way? 19 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, he had that whole 20 thing from 2006. He's been shunned by, you 21 know, society since that first thing in 2006 22 You know, like, when he's in business, he used 23 to, you know, handle the (Indiscernible 24 *00:58:12). That's where he made a lot of his 25 money. You know what I'm saying, with the EFTA00113546 66 1 (Indiscernible *00:58:15). 2 So, Wexlon (Phonetic Sp. *00:58:18) 3 distanced himself from that. Because, you 4 know, people would be seeing the old Jeffrey 5 Epstein, because of his initial thing in 2006. 6 In that period of time. So, yeah. So, he 7 already went through that shunning, you know, 8 and, you know, it is what it was. He was 9 trying to rehabilitate his reputation, at the 10 time. 11 That's why Bannon was helping him. 12 Because Bannon was going to come out with 13 another story. And there's another, there's 14 people from Australia - and you'll see soon in 15 the papers - that they're coming out with a 16 whole story about this case, with Ghislaine 17 Maxwell, and the brother, and these victims, 18 who they're claiming, we're not really victims. 19 You know? You know, that these are just, as my 20 mother used to say, good time Charlies. 21 Girls looking for a good time. You know, 22 if it was so victim-ish, you know, then how 23 come all these girls brought their friends to 24 participate in these parties? There was an 25 interview on TV, last year. It was set in EFTA00113547 67 1 Britain. Some British woman who (Indiscernible 2 *00:59:11) and my brother, who had been to some 3 of the dinner parties, at my brother's house. 4 And so, you know, and she started saying, there 5 were two journalists, (Indiscernible 6 *00:59:21). She started saying how these girls 7 were not victims. You know, they were enjoying 8 the high life. 9 Flying around in private jets. Being in 10 these amazing homes. I mean, his house 11 (Indiscernible *00:59:29) pays him, you know? 12 And then, and when she started turning the tide 13 on these poor victims, the journalist shut it 14 down. Because at the time, nobody wants to 15 hear anything positive about Jeff. Nobody 16 wants to hear anything negative about his 17 victims. You know? You know, Jeff was just 18 enjoying the time. You know? 19 : Do you know if he was 20 aware that you'll put it up, and agree to be 21 the guarantee, guarantor? 22 MR. EPSTEIN: Uh. 23 : For the bail. 24 MR. EPSTEIN: I think his attorneys told 25 him that. Yeah. EFTA00113548 68 1 : Same thing with David 2 Mitchell. You think the attorneys screwed 3 (Indiscernible *01:00:03)? 4 MR. EPSTEIN: I would imagine so. Yeah. 5 : Okay. 6 MS. RICHMAN: You can check the MCC 7 records that he was meeting with his attorneys 8 all day, and (Indiscernible *01:00:13) the 9 entire day. Every day. 10 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 11 MS. RICHMAN: Because all of the rest of 12 us had to wait, because you couldn't see 13 anybody else from the SHU. 14 : Hmm. 15 MR. EPSTEIN: (Indiscernible *01:00:25). 16 Also, when a - a couple - the weeks before he 17 died, he had that incident with 18 His cellmate at the time. 19 : Mm-hmm. 20 MR. EPSTEIN: There's conflicting stories, 21 about it, you know, David Shone said that - and 22 publicly - that attacked him, one 23 afternoon, and was trying to say that was, 24 like, the suicide attempt. So, who knows where 25 it took place. Or if attacked him. EFTA00113549 69 1 And then, was still on the tier. 2 (Indiscernible *01:00:55). 3 : Now, do you know if 4 Jeffrey spoke at all with anyone -. If his 5 attorneys know anything about Epstein being 6 attacked by 7 MR. EPSTEIN: David Shone is the one that 8 would talk to me about that. 9 : So, that's -. 10 MR. EPSTEIN: Like I said, his attorneys 11 don't give me very much information on that. I 12 was involved in the case. And that 13 (Indiscernible *01:01:16) in place, and you 14 don't see the name anywhere. Yes. 15 : But that Jeffrey 16 specifically told him that, is what you're 17 saying, or he -- 18 MR. EPSTEIN: Yes. 19 : -- just heard of that? 20 MR. EPSTEIN: No, no. He -. David Shone 21 met with Jeffrey in jail. And that's why David 22 Shone said that Jeffrey was upbeat about the 23 defense. 24 : Okay. 25 MR. EPSTEIN: You know, relying on another EFTA00113550 70 1 prosecution. Oh, that's what got Bill Cosby 2 out, right? Another prosecution, a non- 3 disclosure agreement, yeah. Which I believe is 4 the defense that Ghislaine Maxwell is 5 (Indiscernible *01:01:41), you know, but I'm 6 not an attorney, and they charge a 7 (Indiscernible *01:01:44). 8 : Right. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Mm-hmm. 10 MS. RICHMAN: Okay. 11 : Anything else that we 12 know about, or follow up with? 13 MR. EPSTEIN: Like I said, like, I would 14 like to talk to the, you know, who were the 15 unnamed guards, number one and number two. You 16 know, a list of people in the tier. Michael 17 Thomas found him in the morning. So, he was in 18 there, assuming that Barr was right and nobody 19 went in and out. Like I said, if he was going 20 to be killed, nobody would go in and out to 21 kill him, right? All right. How you going to 22 do that? (Indiscernible *01:02:13) but if you 23 plan something, you know, to kill him. You 24 know, that's how you commit suicide. That's a 25 lot of things, a suicide. EFTA00113551 71 1 : Prior to getting 2 murdered? 3 MR. EPSTEIN: No. He wasn't. He was 4 murdered. 5 : (Indiscernible 6 *01:02:28). 7 MR. EPSTEIN: But the dude who murdered 8 make it look like a suicide. That's the 9 (Indiscernible *01:02:31). 10 : Oh. I got it. I 11 understand what you're saying. All right. So, 12 yeah, from you, or anything that we've 13 discussed, (Indiscernible *01:02:39), if you 14 want us to attach that video -- 15 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 16 : -- as well as the 17 photographs, and the recording 18 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 19 : -- you can just send it 20 to us through your attorney. 21 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 22 : And I'm grateful 23 (Indiscernible *01:02:47) that we can have 24 other stuff to follow up on. 25 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. EFTA00113552 72 1 : (Indiscernible 2 *01:02:50). 3 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. So, the guards. Who 4 the guards were -. Like I said, I wouldn't 5 mind talking to Michael Thomas, and finding out 6 what position was Jeffrey in when he first saw 7 him. When he first found him. That's very 8 crucial. What position Jeffrey was in when 9 Michael found him. 10 : Mm-hmm. 11 MR. EPSTEIN: The video tape in the 12 hospital. You know, with the (Indiscernible 13 *01:03:15), the FD and line guys, that we both 14 talk, I tried to go down to the station -- 15 : Uh-huh. 16 MR. EPSTEIN: -- or the SHU, yeah, 17 (Indiscernible *01:03:25) around, talk to them. 18 And I'm (Indiscernible *01:03:24). 19 : Who won't talk to you? 20 MR. EPSTEIN: I was trying to get the fire 21 department guys -- 22 : Oh, okay. 23 MR. EPSTEIN: -- to try to get them to 24 talk to me, but they won't talk. I'm the next 25 of kin, I'm entitled to all this information. EFTA00113553 73 1 : Sure. 2 MR. EPSTEIN: And they ain't got shit. 3 You know, other than this paperwork. 4 : Yeah. 5 MR. EPSTEIN: Also, what happened with the 6 test, and the DNA, and (Indiscernible 7 *01:03:40). Was that test ever done? What 8 were the results of that test? I mean, if it 9 was a real artist, then you may not find 10 anything. Was the test done? And what led the 11 Chief Medical Examiner declare it was a 12 suicide? Just a few days after it was pending. 13 Pending forever investigation. 14 MS. RICHMAN: There was never an 15 investigation. 16 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. What investigation 17 took place? There was no indication that any 18 investigation took place. Which, like, other 19 than Barr saying, well, he sort of 20 (Indiscernible *01:04:06) nobody went in and 21 out. That convinced him it was a suicide. 22 MS. RICHMAN: That came later. 23 MR. EPSTEIN: What? 24 MS. RICHMAN: That came later. 25 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. It came later. That EFTA00113554 74 1 came later. 2 : Are you aware of when 3 they actually thought they deemed it a suicide? 4 MS. RICHMAN: It was the Friday. The 5 following Friday. 6 : So, that Friday. So, he 7 was found on Saturday, the following? That 8 Friday? 9 MR. EPSTEIN: It was, like, five days. 10 MS. RICHMAN: Yeah. 11 MR. EPSTEIN: It was something, like, five 12 days. 13 : Was that when he -- 14 MS. RICHMAN: But we had heard from the 15 media that they were changing it. That's why 16 we called into the Medical Examiner's Office, 17 like, what the hell is going on? What are you 18 talking about? Where are you getting this 19 from? It made no sense. Because there hadn't 20 been a full investigation. 21 MR. EPSTEIN: The city pathologist and Dr. 22 , they did the autopsy. 23 MS. RICHMAN: They were present. Yes. 24 MR. EPSTEIN: They were present. They did 25 the autopsy. They said, this looks more like EFTA00113555 75 1 2 3 4 a murder than a suicide. And then, the Chief Medical Examiner declares it's a suicide from before. What is she basing that on? : When they do the autopsy, is 5 it recorded? 6 MS. RICHMAN: Yes. 7 MR. EPSTEIN: It's what? 8 : Is it video recorder? 9 MS. RICHMAN: It's audio recorded. 10 : Audio recorded. And there 11 MR. EPSTEIN: And the photographs. 12 : -- Dr. (Indiscernible 13 *01:05:06) recording? 14 MS. RICHMAN: We don't have the recording. 15 : But if he was there? He 16 would (Indiscernible *01:05:12) the recording? 17 MS. RICHMAN: He was there. 18 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Because he spoke it. 19 MS. RICHMAN: Of course. 20 MR. EPSTEIN: He said they did whatever he 21 asked them to do, certain things. He's -- 22 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *01:05:18) 23 MR. EPSTEIN: so, he wouldn't have to 24 do a second autopsy. It would be closer. If 25 he's standing there, they - (Indiscernible EFTA00113556 76 1 *01:05:23) asked him whatever he wanted. You 2 know? Yeah. 3 MS. RICHMAN: They -. Sorry. 4 (Indiscernible *01:05:34). Yeah. They changed 5 it. We don't understand why. 6 : And . Did agree 7 to the - it be changed? 8 MR. EPSTEIN: No. 9 MS. RICHMAN: No. But they didn't ask 10 him. 11 MR. EPSTEIN: No. No. He wasn't 12 consulted. 13 MS. RICHMAN: He was surprised. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Well, you can talk to 15 , if he's around. Go talk to him. 16 : (Indiscernible *01:05:56) 17 for contact information you have? Is there any 18 contact information you would like to provide? 19 MR. EPSTEIN: For 20 : For any of the people 21 that you -. 22 : We have David Shone. David 23 Mitchell. Was Shone -. 24 : Or you can provide it 25 through your attorney. EFTA00113557 77 1 MS. RICHMAN: (Indiscernible *01:06:09). 2 Why don't you just send it all to me? And I'll 3 just forward it to them. 4 : Anyone you think that -- 5 : Anyone that we should be 6 - you think we should speak to, and the contact 7 information that you have. I'm not talking 8 about, like, the guards or things like that. I 9 mean -- 10 MS. RICHMAN: Well, we don't have that. 11 : -- right. And I mean, we 12 have all of that stuff. But as far as outside 13 of the government. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Oh, well, well, I'll give 15 you David Shone's number. I have it right 16 here. It's 17 : What's the name? 18 MR. EPSTEIN: number, his mobile 19 is Great guy, by the way, 20 talking to. He really is super (Indiscernible 21 *01:06:53). 22 : What about Mitchell? David 23 Mitchell. 24 MR. EPSTEIN: Because I 25 knew David Mitchell from long ago. And I EFTA00113558 78 1 haven't seen or spoken to David Mitchell 2 probably in a couple of decades. Until this 3 came about. That's when we reconnected. When 4 I found out that he also put money, you know, 5 the bail up for Jeffrey, we reconnected. 6 : Anything else? 7 MR. EPSTEIN: Back in the 90s, and early 8 2000s, Jeffrey and I did stuff all the time. 9 We were much closer to him. But then, 10 (Indiscernible *01:07:36), you know, just got 11 (Indiscernible *01:07:39). 12 : Is there any 13 communications via email that would have been - 14 that you had with Jeffrey that would help us at 15 all? 16 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, I might have the back 17 and forth between him and I, with the, about 18 the video tape. 19 MS. RICHMAN: Uh-huh. 20 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. That was forwarded to 21 me from Bannon. Yeah. There's nothing else, 22 really. Like I said, most of the 23 communications with us was, you know, telling 24 me funny things, or I just keep him 25 (Indiscernible *01:08:08) with every cousins, EFTA00113559 79 1 and things like that. So. 2 : Maybe you've talked 3 amongst your attorney, if there is any 4 communications that you guys have, that might 5 be helpful for us? 6 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Of course. Yeah. 7 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. 8 : Do you know of anyone else 9 that communicated with Jeffrey, while he was in 10 prison, other than his attorneys? 11 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, just 12 MS. RICHMAN: I don't think - I mean, he 13 doesn't know his social circles. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 15 MS. RICHMAN: So, he doesn't know his 16 friends, or who he was in business with, or 17 anything along that line. And he's been shut 18 down. I've tried to reach out to people in the 19 estate, he wanted to have wrongful death suit 20 for his brother, but the estate has that right, 21 he doesn't have that right, and they shouldn't 22 reach out to him. 23 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. And I'm not happy 24 that the estate wouldn't give me that right to 25 file a wrongful death suit, because even if I EFTA00113560 80 1 did it that way, the money -. Whatever money 2 is going to bring me. Look, it's a slam dunk 3 case for wrongful death. Mm-hmm. 4 : Who was entitled to that 5 money? Was that the estate? 6 MR. EPSTEIN: It belonged to his estate. 7 : And who was -? 8 MR. EPSTEIN: The trustee. The 9 executives. 10 : Who are they? 11 MR. EPSTEIN: , and 12 (Phonetic Sp. *01:09:07). 13 : Wait. What were the names? 14 MR. EPSTEIN: 15 : Can you spell the last name 16 for me? 17 MR. EPSTEIN: 18 : And who was the other person? 19 MR. EPSTEIN: It was 20 Right? It's 21 MS. RICHMAN: I'm not sure that 22 think there is another executive, as well. 23 MR. EPSTEIN: There was -- 24 : Okay. 25 MR. EPSTEIN: -- there was a third one as EFTA00113561 81 1 an alternate. 2 MS. RICHMAN: Right. But I think -. 3 MR. EPSTEIN: Who was declined, that he -- 4 MS. RICHMAN: That's (Indiscernible 5 *01:09:27). 6 MR. EPSTEIN: -- doesn't want to be part 7 of it. He didn't even know who (Indiscernible 8 *01:09:30). 9 : And who are these people? 10 MS. RICHMAN: The estate executives. 11 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, is a long-term -- 12 MS. RICHMAN: An attorney? 13 MR. EPSTEIN: was my brother's private 14 attorney. He worked for Jeff for a long time. 15 And she's worked with him, (Indiscernible 16 *01:09:41). , I think, was -. I 17 don't think he's an attorney. I think he's, 18 like, an account or something. He also paid 19 (Indiscernible *01:09:46). 20 : And these people are 21 entitled to all -? 22 MR. EPSTEIN: They're in control of the 23 estate. 24 MS. RICHMAN: It's whatever the trustees, 25 we don't know. EFTA00113562 82 1 : Okay. 2 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. 3 MS. RICHMAN: I mean -- 4 MR. EPSTEIN: I mean, I believe that the 5 trustees 6 MS. RICHMAN: -- I just have no idea. 7 MR. EPSTEIN: -- also, when he, you know, 8 money, on this day, gets transferred off the 9 trust, and then the trust got - you know, it 10 says what's to be done with it. And those 11 guys, I believe, are under the trustees, as 12 well. 13 : Okay. 14 MR. EPSTEIN: Yeah. Now, I don't know. 15 Like I said, the wrongful death case, the 16 wrongful death suit, is that a slam dunk. And 17 I just want to point out, if it was successful, 18 there could have been more money in the pocket 19 for the victims, or for whatever, you know, if 20 they're getting his money. But the executives 21 chose not to do it. And how did -. I question 22 that. And I question because there's a deal 23 coming in, because both and are 24 being looked at and investigated. 25 So, they're rolling up all their sleeves. EFTA00113563 83 1 And from what I heard, they've also, they're 2 hired criminal defense attorneys, for this 3 case. 4 MS. RICHMAN: Yeah. 5 MR. EPSTEIN: So, there's some deal coming 6 in, it would going for wrongful death. If 7 something (Indiscernible *01:10:56). 8 : Okay. Well, if there is 9 anything else 10 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 11 : -- you could always 12 contact us either by phone or whatever. 13 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. 14 : And we will talk some 15 more about that. Otherwise, we'll look forward 16 to that other email. 17 MR. EPSTEIN: You have cards? Can I have 18 your cards? 19 : I don't think I actually 20 have a card. 21 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, if not, I can 22 : Yeah. Give it to me 23 MR. EPSTEIN: I can send to you. 24 MS. RICHMAN: Well -- 25 : -- well, we send it to your EFTA00113564 84 1 attorney. 2 MS. RICHMAN: yeah, go through me. 3 MR. EPSTEIN: Okay. Okay. 4 : (Indiscernible 5 *01:11:23). 6 MS. RICHMAN: Okay. 7 : Well, thank you for taking 8 the time to talk to us. 9 MR. EPSTEIN: Well, pleasure might be the 10 wrong word. 11 : It's 11:40 a.m. on September 12 22, 2021. And we are ending the interview. 13 This is Special Agent 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 EFTA00113565 85 CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General in the matter of: Interview of MARK EPSTEIN , Transcriber EFTA00113566 A Able - 6:13, 65:6 Above - 21:23, 22:8, 22:9, 22:12 Abraded - 22:6, 22:20 Abrasion - 21:5 Absolutely - 25:13 Access - 59:22 Account - 81:18 Activity - 61:4 Actually - 8:12, 8:20, 10:17, 16:7, 36:4, 44:17, 49:11, 58:7, 58:8, 59:13, 65:15, 74:3, 83:19 Add - 48:25 After - 18:20, 24:11, 27:18, 34:24, 36:11, 41:20, 45:12, 49:7, 49:8, 55:13, 61:4, 64:1, 73:12 Afternoon - 68:23 Afterwards - 7:1 Again - 62:24 Agent - 3:2, 3:9, 3:15, 3:17, 5:15, 5:19, 27:1, 27:6, 84:13 Ago - 47:9, 55:6, 59:14, 77:25 Agree - 10:11, 36:5, 36:15, 67:20, 76:6 Agreed - 35:11, 36:17, 58:8 Agreement - 33:25, 45:1, 45:23, 46:3, 46:14, 70:3 Agreements - 28:14 Ah - 24:21 Ahead - 4:18, 5:23 Ain't - 73:2 Air - 15:25, 52:25 Alive - 16:2 Alleviate - 48:20 Alone - 11:2 Along - 61:7, 79:17 Already - 10:3, 10:7, 66:7 Alternate - 81:1 Always - 59:17, 61:6, 62:15, 83:11 Am - 9:1, 9:24 Amateur - 10:11 Amazing - 67:10 Amongst - 79:3 Angle - 53:13 Ankle - 35:18 Announced - 14:9 Another - 15:12, 16:10, 17:1, 23:17, 23:22, 46:21, 58:18, 66:13, 69:25, 70:2, 80:22 Answer - 8:25, 18:13 Answered - 53:21 Any - 10:17, 14:14, 24:23, 26:22, 41:4, 43:6, 45:6, 53:22, 54:5, 54:9, 64:7, 65:11, 65:16, 73:17, 76:17, 76:20, 78:12, 79:3 Anybody - 43:1, 54:8, 54:14, 68:13 Anyhow - 34:10 Anyone - 10:17, 24:5, 24:10, 42:24, 43:1, 43:15, 69:4, 77:4, 77:5, 79:8 Anywhere - 64:12, 69:14 Apart - 26:16 Apologize - 15:9 Appeal - 35:8, 57:13, 57:16 Application - 59:1 Argument - 29:24, 30:1, 30:2 Arm - 23:2 Armed - 49:6, 49:17 Around - 20:23, 22:2, 30:7, 45:18, 55:11, 64:17, 67:9, 72:17, 76:15 Arrest - 35:17, 64:1, 64:2 Arrested - 30:6, 30:19, 30:22, 34:2, 46:24, 47:20, 48:16 Artist - 24:6, 73:9 Aside - 54:14 Ask -4:20, 4:21, 4:25, 5:4, 25:1, 38:3, 38:25, 41:3, 43:1, 43:20, 76:9 Asked - 29:2, 32:13, 34:2, 35:9, 55:12, 57:1, 57:21, 75:21, 76:1 Asking - 8:3 Ass - 18:15, 27:2 Assets - 41:18 Assume - 62:22 Assumed - 6:2, 62:18, 63:5, 63:8 Assuming - 23:23, 70:18 Atheists - 63:14 Attach - 71:14 Attacked - 68:22, 68:25, 69:6 Attempt - 68:24 Attica - 7:7 Attorney - 3:8, 3:24, 4:13, 9:12, 24:2, 43:19, 49:22, 70:6, 71:20, 76:25, 79:3, 81:12, 81:14, 81:17, 84:1 Attorney/ Client - 49:20 Attorneys - 30:21, 33:20, 34:2, 35:8, 42:4, 42:25, 43:9, 54:14, 67:24, 68:2, 68:7, 69:5, 69:10, 79:10, 83:2 Audio - 75:9, 75:10 August - 36:19, 37:18, 39:12, 41:8 Australia - 66:14 Authority - 7:9 Autopsy - 6:10, 6:22, 6:24, 7:2, 7:4, 7:5, 9:4, 12:6, 12:9, 12:10, 74:22, 74:25, 75:4, 75:24 Aware - 62:5, 67:20, 74:2 B Backdoor - 47:12 Bad - 27:2, 27:7 Balloons - 52:24 Balls - 17:15 Bannon - 26:7, 26:9, 49:7, 49:9, 49:11, 49:21, 51:8, 66:11, 66:12, 78:21 Bannon's - 49:17 Banter - 33:3 Barr - 9:12, 70:18, 73:19 - 6:14, 6:16, 7:3, 7:5, 7:10, 7:11, 7:15, 74:22, 75:12, 76:6, 76:15, 76:19 - 21:19, 77:18 Basically -4:13 Basing - 75:3 Basis - 8:7 Bathrobe - 12:16 Bathroom - 47:3 Beer - 32:22, 32:23, 32:25 Beginning - 28:21 Behind - 27:16 Being - 6:10, 22:20, 42:9, 42:15, 42:18, 45:19, 52:17, 55:17, 65:13, 65:16, 67:9, 69:5, 82:24 Believe - 25:22, 38:19, 38:22, 39:9, 52:10, 70:3, 82:4, 82:11 Believed - 45:24 Belonged - 80:6 Below - 22:5 Belt - 12:16 Better - 7:9, 22:18, 57:3 Between - 9:15, 33:3, 78:17 Big - 9:11 Bill - 29:9, 29:10, 70:1 Billy - 31:6, 31:8 Bimbos - 64:25 Birth -4:25, 5:5 Birthday - 5:5 Bit - 62:17 Blood - 22:23 Bodies - 17:13 Body - 7:1, 7:18, 7:20, 15:15, 15:17, 17:9, 17:12, 50:16, 50:17, 50:22, 51:10, 51:14, 53:7 Bone - 12:14, 12:24 Bones - 7:14, 12:12, 12:18, 12:22 Boom - 47:2, 47:3 Both - 48:18, 59:15, 63:14, 72:13, 82:23 Boxer -17:6, 17:11 Brace - 52:22 Break - 12:18, 13:13, 47:20 Breakfast - 63:6 Breaks - 12:18, 14:24, 62:16 Breathing - 53:6 Bring - 80:2 Britain - 67:1 British - 67:1 Broke - 48:1 Broken - 7:14, 12:12, 12:14 Brooks - 15:1 Brother -4:10, 25:25, 26:6, 26:11, 27:22, 32:23, 34:13, 39:25, 41:10, 45:14, 48:25, 49:8, 50:2, 65:13, 66:17, 67:2, 79:20 Brothers - 33:3 Brothers - 28:19, 67:3, 81:13 Brought - 27:3, 66:23 Bruise - 23:16 Building - 47:11 Bullshit - 26:17 Bullshitter - 47:5 Bunch - 11:14 Bunk - 14:24, 15:4, 15:7, 16:11 Burst - 22:23 Busines - 28:1 Business - 65:22, 79:16 By - 6:11, 6:21, 14:9, 18:14, 27:13, 49:20, 52:2, 59:21, 65:20, 69:6, 77:19, 83:12 C Call - 7:12, 7:16, 53:25 Called - 8:2, 12:14, 13:1, 30:15, 30:16, 30:21, 34:2, 35:8, 40:25, 43:1, 55:12, 55:18, 57:1, 57:15, 74:16 Came - 5:25, 6:7, 7:11, 73:22, 73:24, 73:25, 74:1, 78:3 Camera - 8:10, 8:12, 8:14, 8:17, 8:19, 8:20, 8:22, 8:25, 9:13, 13:16, 35:19, 47:2, 51:1, 51:4, 51:22, 52:5 Cameras - 8:17, 47:13, 50:22 Cancel - 26:4 Cancelled - 48:19 Can't - 6:16, 38:25, 47:24 Card - 83:20 Cards - 61:19, 83:17, 83:18 Care - 56:2 Carried - 27:2 Case - 9:5, 45:21, 62:22, 66:16, 69:12, 80:3, 82:15, 83:3 Cash - 48:3, 48:6 Catered - 64:15 Catholic -44:23 Cause - 7:21 Cell - 8:11, 10:18, 10:20, 10:23, 11:1, EFTA00113567 11:3, 11:5, 15:5, 16:7, 17:5, 24:10, 59:21 Cellmate - 68:18 Central - 8:4 Certain - 65:18, 75:21 Certainly - 63:17 Certificate - 7:20 Chair - 15:2 Chance - 35:14 Change - 8:2 Changed - 41:8, 41:9, 41:13, 42:1, 42:5, 76:4, 76:7 Changing - 8:5, 74:15 Charade - 51:21, 53:4 Charge - 15:13, 70:6 Charlies - 66:20 Check - 31:13, 68:6 Checked - 9:6, 17:4 Checks - 19:24 Chest - 13:5, 13:10, 13:12 Chief - 6:17, 7:23, 73:11, 75:1 Childhood - 38:11 Choice - 63:8 Choose - 63:16 Chose - 82:21 Circles - 79:13 City - 6:12, 6:18, 7:10, 74:21 Claim - 7:20 Claiming - 66:18 Claims - 45:19 Clarify - 7:25, 37:4 Clean - 44:23 Clip - 32:11 Close - 28:10, 33:17, 36:8, 36:25, 37:1, 55:17, 57:21, 63:4 Closer - 22:18, 27:17, 75:24, 78:9 Closing - 8:8 Clothing - 17:7 Clue - 33:18 CNN - 62:19 Come - 8:3, 10:4, 57:13, 66:12, 66:23 Comes - 28:10, 35:24, 45:15 Coming - 23:4, 34:24, 51:19, 66:15, 82:23, 83:5 Commission - 7:6 Commit - 24:5, 24:6, 70:24 Committed - 39:19, 49:1, 62:19, 62:23 Committing - 64:3 Communicate - 64: 1 Communicated - 7 9:9 Communications - 53:22, 55:15, 78:13, 78:23, 79:4 Compressions - 13 :5, 13:10, 13:12 Condition - 53:8 Conducted - 6:11 Conducting - 3:10 Confirmation - 38:2 4 Confirmed - 7:15 Conflicting - 68:20 - 80:12, 80:19. 81:16, 82:23 Consistent - 21:11 Consulted - 76:12 Contact - 54:8, 54:9, 76:17, 76:18, 77:6, 83:12 Contacted - 40:15, 49:8 Contemplating - 42 :8, 42:9 Control - 81:22 Conversation - 39: 15, 40:1, 40:8, 43:13 Convinced - 9:23, 10:9, 73:21 Cool - 48:17, 62:15 Copies - 61:10 Copy - 60:15 Cord - 20:19, 20:20, 21:22, 24:15, 53:13, 53:17, 59:21, 59:24, 60:2, 60:3, 60:5, 60:20 Correct - 31:17, 38:3 Corrupted - 8:11 Cosby - 70:1 Could - 7:12, 7:19, 9:2, 21:17, 33:1, 60:1, 82:18, 83:11 Couldn't - 68:12 Couple - 30:25, 57:20, 68:16, 78:2 Course - 75:19, 79:6 Cousins - 78:25 Cover - 17:13 Covered - 52:21 CPAP - 20:19, 53:14 CPR - 13:6 Creases - 16:24 Credentials - 5:13, 5:19 Credibility - 27:6 Criminal - 27:7, 83:2 Crook - 27:22, 28:2, 28:3, 28:6, 48:18 Crucial - 72:8 Culture - 51:9 Custody - 12:5 Cut - 8:23, 16:17, 16:19, 16:21, 17:10, 17:12, 18:24, 19:20, 23:2, 23:15, 25:19, 44:23, 48:2, 53:10 D - 59:9, 80:11, 80:14 Date - 4:25, 5:5, 30:8, 40:12, 42:11 Dating - 34:16 David - 37:8, 37:10, 37:12, 37:13, 43:18, 43:25, 44:3, 44:5, 58:20, 68:1, 68:21, 69:7, 69:20, 69:21, 76:22, 77:15, 77:22, 77:25, 78:1 Day - 6:11, 26:12, 30:18, 33:13, 36:13, 36:22, 44:7, 68:8, 68:9, 82:8 Days - 7:23, 34:24, 35:14, 35:22, 36:10, 57:14, 63:22, 73:12, 74:9, 74:12 DEA - 27:1, 27:6 Dead - 11:7, 11:8, 11:19, 15:17, 16:1, 17:2, 17:9, 17:12, 17:13, 21:8, 36:18, 39:25, 51:10, 51:12, 51:14, 53:9, 55:23, 62:18, 63:3 Deal - 28:4, 44:15, 44:16, 44:25, 45:11, 46:13, 51:14, 82:22, 83:5 Deaths - 7:7, 7:10 Decades - 78:2 Deceased - 55:2, 55:3 Decision - 6:5 Declare - 73:11 Declared - 51:12 Declares - 7:24, 75:2 Declined - 81:3 Deemed - 74:3 Defense - 43:23, 69:23, 70:4, 83:2 Defibrillate - 53:11 Defibrillator - 53:12 , 59:25 Demonstrated - 21: 12 Denied - 34:23 Dennis - 3:9, 3:18, 5:21 Department - 3:3, 3:18, 50:22, 72:21 Depressed - 64:4 Description - 11:12 Determination - 7:1 2 Determined - 8:22, 44:18 Diamonds - 48:4, 48:6 Dick - 26:19 Dictates - 41:23 Die - 18:6 Died - 29:4, 31:22, 33:13, 34:25, 36:19, 37:23, 41:20, 44:7, 55:5, 55:6, 55:14, 68:17 Dies - 51:9 Dinner - 67:3 Directing - 50:15, 50:18 Directly - 9:15 Dirt - 34:20 Disclosed - 43:10 Disclosure - 28:14, 70:3 Discolored - 20:24, 25:22 Discovered - 8:6 Discrepancy - 60:2 5 Discuss - 13:4 Discussed - 71:13 Disguise - 33:2 Distanced - 66:3 District - 46:5 DNA - 9:5, 9:7, 73:6 Does - 20:17, 20:22, 48:5 Doesn't - 35:25, 48:20, 48:25, 63:21, 64:20, 79:13, 79:15, 79:21, 81:6 Doing - 7:8, 9:18, 10:24, 18:17, 22:19, 32:18 DOJ - 3:8 DOJ/OIG - 5:16 Dollar - 37:5 Dollars - 35:5 Dollars' - 35:3 Done - 24:7, 29:13, 73:7, 73:10, 82:10 Dont - 20:5 Door - 9:14, 47:12, 59:23, 60:7, 60:21, 60:23, 65:4 Doubled - 35:10 Doubt - 6:4, 52:4 Down - 15:2, 16:17, 16:19, 17:14, 17:20, 18:25, 19:21, 22:9, 47:1, 52:23, 53:5, 64:22, 64:23, 64:24, 67:14, 72:14, 79:18 Dr - 6:14, 6:15, 7:11, 21:18, 74:21, 75:12 Dress - 51:4 Dressed - 17:12 Drivers - 5:8, 5:11 Drowning - 53:1 Drugs - 44:20 Dude - 71:7 Dunk - 80:2, 82:16 During - 13:6, 39:15 E Each - 41:11 Early - 52:3, 78:7 Ears - 22:14 Easier - 49:2 Edge - 16:20 Effect - 19:25 Eight - 38:20 Either -10:1, 17:10, 83:12 Election - 25:25, 26:5, 48:19 Electric - 20:19, 20:20, 21:1, 21:22, 53:13, 53:17, 59:21, 59:24, 60:2, 60:5, 60:20 Else - 24:10, 26:25, 35:24, 48:21, 61:25, 68:13, 70:11, 78:6, 78:21, 79:8, 83:9 Email - 32:8, 32:10, 53:25, 78:13, 83:16 Emailed - 31:2, 32:6 EMT - 50:9, 50:12 Emts - 16:3, 16:6, 50:24, 51:2 Ending - 84:12 Enjoying - 67:7, 67:18 EFTA00113568 Enough - 48:18 Entire - 35:10, 68:9 Entitled - 72:25, 80:4, 81:21 Epstein's - 3:12, 4:10, 8:11 Especially - 58:5 Estate - 28:4, 41:14, 41:15, 45:16, 79:19, 79:20, 79:24, 80:5, 80:6, 81:10, 81:23 Estranged - 31:16, 58:6 Even - 27:3, 34:12, 41:16, 79:25, 81:7 Evening - 37:22 Eventually - 65:1 Ever - 9:6, 13:2, 35:4, 45:4, 54:21, 58:24, 63:23, 64:3, 64:4, 64:7, 73:7 Every - 30:25, 34:18, 68:9, 78:25 Everybody - 8:8, 26:17, 28:2, 28:15 Everything - 48:21, 48:22 Evidence - 9:5, 20:10, 21:16 Evidentiary - 11:4 Exact - 38:16, 40:12, 56:12, 57:23 Exactly - 26:20, 42:21 Examiner - 6:18, 7:23, 73:11, 75:2 Examiners - 8:3, 15:19, 74:16 Exchange - 32:10 Excuse - 44:2 Executive - 41:14, 80:22 Executives - 41:16, 80:9, 81:10, 82:20 Exhibited - 23:1 Exist - 47:17, 48:14, 48:15 Expect - 22:17 Expensive - 47:2 Experience - 14:14 Expired - 48:7 Explain - 12:3, 28:8, 44:11 Explained - 57:15 Explaining -57:3 Extension - 60:6 Extensive - 47:7, 47:16 Extremely -12:13 Eye - 64:15 Eyes - 22:21, 22:23 F Facebook - 44:19 Facing - 62:25, 63:12, 65:11 Fact - 24:11, 45:23 Fall - 15:2, 18:6 Family - 8:4, 31:5. 54:5, 54:10, 54:12, 55:18 Far - 37:16, 45:18, 46:9, 50:4, 58:23, 77:12 - 52:10, 52:11 Father - 55:5 FBI -46:25, 47:18, 49:5 FD - 72:13 Fear - 42:11, 42:12, 65:16 Fears - 63:15 Federal - 26:25, 46:4, 46:10, 46:14, 46:15, 46:17 Fell - 26:16 Felt - 13:15, 27:3, 43:22, 43:23 Female - 37:25 Few 4:15, 7:22, 32:5, 40:13, 47:19, 53:7, 73:12 Field - 3:6 File - 79:25 Filled - 15:5 Final - 59:1 Find - 15:17, 18:11, 24:15, 32:21, 34:20, 50:14, 51:10, 53:18, 57:18, 73:9 Finding - 72:5 Fingers - 9:5 Finished - 63:6 Fire - 50:22, 72:20 Firm - 59:15, 59:16 First - 6:1, 6:9, 15:14, 34:1, 37:11, 43:7, 44:13, 47:1, 47:8, 55:11, 55:21, 56:25, 62:4, 65:21, 72:6, 72:7 Firsthand - 50:6 Fishing - 47:25 Five - 74:9, 74:11 Flapping -17:15 Flatten - 21:4 Flee - 34:8 Flew - 30:18 Floor - 8:10, 25:11 Florida - 33:25, 37:12, 44:10, 44:13, 46:6, 56:21, 56:22, 57:8 Flying - 64:17, 67:9 Follow - 24:22, 70:12, 71:24 Following - 74:5, 74:7 Forensic - 6:24, 14:14 Forever - 73:13 Forget - 23:18, 48:20 Former - 6:17 Forth - 78:17 Forward - 18:17, 77:3, 83:15 Forwarded - 78:20 Four - 17:18, 51:2 Friday - 30:19, 44:1, 44:4, 74:4, 74:5, 74:6, 74:8 Friend - 37:8, 37:14, 38:10, 38:11, 38:12 Friends - 66:23, 79:16 Front - 47:12 Fucked - 19:21 Fucking - 35:21, 60:19 Full - 74:20 Funniest - 32:24 Funny - 31:7, 31:9, 32:21, 78:24 Furlough -25:8 G Gang - 48:18 Gap - 36:22 Garbage - 49:15 Garrote - 22:15 Gary - 81:11 Gave - 33:20 General - 3:4, 3:7, 3:19, 9:12 Gets - 28:12, 47:19, 65:4, 82:8 Getting - 27:6, 45:24, 55:20, 71:1, 74:18, 82:20 Ghislaine - 66:16, 70:4 Ghosted - 56:2 Girl - 45:15 Girls - 44:16, 44:20, 44:24, 66:21, 66:23, 67:6 Give - 14:24, 27:23, 59:4, 61:19, 69:11, 77:14, 79:24, 83:22 God -64:12 Goes - 22:14, 22:16 Gone - 61:4 Good - 33:23, 45:11, 61:6, 66:20, 66:21 Gotten - 43:8 Government - 26:2 3, 46:4, 46:10, 46:15, 46:16, 77:13 Gown - 17:13, 51:5 Grateful - 71:22 Great - 61:13, 77:19 Greenland - 46:18, 46:19 Groove - 21:3, 21:6, 21:23, 23:3, 23:4 Guarantee - 35:9, 57:22, 63:24, 67:21 Guaranteed - 37:6 Guarantor - 67:21 Guard - 16:17, 16:18 Guards - 9:14, 9:16, 16:15, 23:19, 25:7, 35:18, 49:6, 49:17, 50:9, 50:12, 70:15, 72:3, 72:4, 77:8 Guess -17:5, 31:8, 58:7 Gurney - 15:24, 52:20 Gut -18:7 Guy -10:1, 16:16, 27:7, 31:9, 51:22, 52:5, 52:7, 77:19 Guys - 9:24, 14:11, 16:12, 50:22, 51:18, 58:6, 61:22, 72:13, 72:21, 79:4, 82:11 H Hadn't - 19:16, 31:19, 32:1, 74:19 Hall - 17:15 Hand - 17:19, 43:7 Handcuffed - 27:5 Handful - 31:24, 51:1 Handle - 65:23 Hang - 22:1, 22:3, 22:13, 31:6 Hanging - 12:15, 26:12, 26:15, 26:18, 64:25 Hangings - 12:17 Happened - 13:6, 33:19, 73:5 Happening - 31:4 Happens - 41:23 Happy - 79:23 Hard - 23:7 Harsh - 14:25, 15:4 Has - 3:1, 5:10, 5:11, 6:25, 7:5, 9:8, 12:1, 15:4, 23:2, 26:9, 28:10, 35:10, 41:15, 64:18, 79:20 Hasn't - 64:23 Haven't - 8:3, 25:8, 31:20, 45:5, 59:17, 62:12, 78:1 Having - 15:10, 43:13 Head - 34:16, 62:15 Headed - 62:10 Health - 55:17 Healthy 65:10 Hear - 23:10, 41:25, 67:15, 67:16 Heard - 6:1, 25:6, 31:15, 37:14, 48:3, 58:5, 62:19, 69:19, 74:14, 83:1 Hearing - 34:24, 36:14, 36:18, 36:20, 63:18, 63:22 Held - 17:19 Hell - 60:19, 74:17 Help - 34:3, 78:14 Helpful - 79:5 Helping - 66:11 Her - 7:11, 38:17, 39:2, 39:12, 40:4, 40:16, 40:25, 41:3, 41:5, 55:24, 64:23 Here's - 22:18 Hide - 17:16 High - 22:4, 67:8 Higher - 12:24, 13:13 Highest - 35:4, 35:6, 63:23 Himmed - 16:20 Himself - 6:5, 12:16, 15:2, 35:21, 55:19, 63:22, 65:8, 66:3 Hire - 6:23 Hired 6:21, 49:6, 83:2 Hmm - 8:6, 14:2, 32:16, 43:11, 46:22, 50:13, 50:23, 52:1, 56:19, 58:16, 65:12, 68:14, 68:19, 70:9, 72:10, 79:7, 80:3 Hold - 23:5, 56:6 EFTA00113569 Home - 11:16, 35:23 Homes - 67:10 Homicide - 7:17, 12:20 Honest - 27:15, 41:2 Honestly - 27:15 Hospital -11:6, 15:23, 17:13, 17:15, 17:18, 17:21, 23:9, 50:20, 51:1, 51:5, 51:11, 51:12, 52:12, 72:12 Hotel - 49:14 Hour - 8:6 Hours -11:8, 11:20, 16:1, 21:7, 21:9, 21:18, 26:9, 49:18, 49:25 How - 8:3, 10:5, 11:9, 17:23, 21:8, 24:24, 28:14, 30:23, 36:24, 37:9, 51:24, 56:1, 56:4, 58:9, 66:22, 67:6, 70:21, 70:24, 82:21 Htye - 39:4 Huh - 15:12, 21:24, 72:15, 78:19 Hung - 12:15 Hurting - 26:25 Idea - 54:21, 82:6 Idol - 31:7, 31:8 I'll - 14:20, 18:13, 61:20, 77:2, 77:14 Imagine - 68:4 Incident - 68:17 Indication - 73:17 Individuals - 45:2 - 59:10, 80:11, 80:14, 82:23 Information - 6:6, 6:8, 10:17, 14:7, 27:24, 28:22, 31:15, 43:10, 47:18, 69:11, 72:25, 76:17, 76:18, 77:7 Informed - 31:16 Initial - 37:10, 66:5 Inside - 10:13, 27:17, 47:11, 47:12, 60:22 Inspector - 3:4, 3:7, 3:19 Instance - 32:10 Instead - 64:25, 65:2 Internal - 21:3 Interview - 3:10, 66:25, 84:12 Interviewed - 8:5 Interviews - 50:1 Into - 10:4, 41:19, 41:20, 47:8, 47:20, 48:1, 48:11, 52:25, 60:6, 74:16 Introduce - 3:13, 3:25 Intubate - 51:18 Intubated - 15:24, 52:22 Investigated - 82:2 4 Investigating - 7:6, 23:23 Investigation - 3:12 , 7:22, 8:9, 14:15, 73:13, 73:15, 73:16, 73:18, 74:20 Investigations - 10: 12, 14:12 Investigators - 9:24 Involved - 58:19, 69:12 Ish - 66:22 Isn't - 13:3 Issues - 55:17, 55:25, 65:11 Itself - 56:11 I've - 25:6, 29:6, 32:22, 47:13, 49:4, 58:24, 59:25, 62:11, 79:18 J 11 Jail - 44:6, 45:7, 57:19, 69:21 Jealous - 29:18 Jeff - 34:12, 38:25, 43:22, 55:11, 55:16, 67:15, 67:17, 81:14 Jeffrey's - 6:1, 15:5, 59:6 Jerking - 9:16 Jets - 35:2, 64:18, 67:9 Joke - 45:13 JcSi i - 45:18 - 16:4, 50:9 Journalist - 24:19, 34:18, 67:13 Journalists - 67:5 July - 30:9, 64:2 Jumped - 14:23, 15:7 Justice - 3:3, 3:19, 27:8 K - 38:4, 38:9, 79:11 Keep - 9:3, 31:3, 31:4, 31:12, 78:24 Kicked - 15:1 Kids - 63:1, 63:11, 63:12 Kill - 10:4, 55:24, 63:21, 65:7, 70:21, 70:23 Killed - 10:2, 10:6, 23:23, 24:9, 42:9, 70:20 Killer - 10:2, 10:7 Killing - 65:8 Kin - 72:25 Kind - 25:19, 28:6, 34:21, 41:4, 47:3, 63:15 Kinds - 44:21 Knew - 26:2, 28:15, 47:14, 49:13, 52:9, 77:25 Knot - 60:22 Knowing - 62:24, 65:14 Knowledge - 42:4, 43:7, 50:6 Known - 58:24 Knows - 27:19, 28:2, 68:24 L Laptop - 12:2 Large - 56:3 Last - 3:14, 8:20, 23:6, 23:19, 30:3, 31:24, 33:6, 53:7, 64:2, 66:25, 80:15 Later - 7:23, 47:19, 73:22, 73:24, 73:25, 74:1 Law - 59:14, 59:15, 59:16 Lawyer - 59:9 Lawyers - 59:6 Leading - 33:10, 41:8 Leaning - 18:17 Learned - 8:10 Least - 11:20, 21:7, 21:8, 35:23, 50:4, 61:4 Led - 73:10 Left - 11:15 Legal - 28:1 Legitimate - 28:3 Legs - 18:16, 18:18 -16:5 Let - 4:20, 10:13, 15:8, 16:9, 29:1, 53:18, 60:10, 62:3 Let's - 23:5 Letter - 54:20 Level - 62:10 License - 4:21, 5:9, 5:11 Lied - 24:20 Life - 34:15, 49:2, 56:3, 62:6, 62:7, 62:12, 64:8, 64:11, 65:6, 67:8 Ligature - 22:11 Lights - 9:25 Line - 21:23, 22:10, 22:13, 22:14, 22:16, 72:13, 79:17 Lingo - 46:7 Lip - 23:15 List - 11:14, 15:10, 23:5, 70:16 Lit - 9:10 Little - 21:5, 22:22, 23:13, 23:21, 44:23, 62:17 Lives - 34:23 Living - 45:3 Long - 7:8, 38:11, 48:9, 56:1, 59:13, 59:18, 62:25, 77:25, 81:11, 81:14 Look - 11:17, 15:21, 16:2, 16:15, 20:18, 20:22, 22:18, 23:16, 48:11, 51:8, 63:10, 71:8, 80:2, 83:15 Looked - 6:7, 82:24 Looking - 12:21, 15:8, 29:5, 47:24, 48:1, 48:10, 48:12, 53:20, 55:23, 60:4, 66:21 Looks - 6:7, 7:16, 20:18, 21:21, 74:25 Loose - 62:16 Lost - 24:14 Lot - 49:2, 61:4, 62:11, 65:24, 70:25 Lots -47:9, 64:19 Lower - 13:11 Lto - 24:11 Lungs - 52:25 - 3:2, 3:15, 5:15. 84:13 M Machine - 20:19, 53:14, 60:1 Made - 9:12, 18:22, 40:21, 44:24, 65:24, 74:19 Make - 8:1, 9:18, 10:8, 16:2, 34:20, 35:25, 42:10, 46:13, 51:8, 61:10, 63:21, 71:8 Man - 28:1, 48:5, 63:19 Many - 7:13, 10:5 Map - 34:11 Mark - 3:8, 3:11, 3:22, 4:5, 4:10, 5:10, 6:21, 21:5, 21:6, 22:5, 22:9 Marked - 16:23 Marks - 21:23, 22:8, 22:12 Maximum - 27:1 Maxwell - 66:17, 70:4 May - 23:5, 73:9 Maybe -4:21, 31:23, 42:9, 79:2 MCC - 52:15, 68:6 Means -22:13 Media -8:1, 74:15 Medical - 6:18, 7:23, 8:2, 15:19, 65:11, 73:11, 74:16, 75:2 Medications - 15:5 Meeting - 68:7 Members - 54:6, 54:10 Mention - 64:3 Mentioned - 5:24, 23:7, 37:5, 44:3, 44:9, 45:22, 58:17, 63:25 Messed - 19:21, 19:23 Met - 29:6, 43:25, 44:4, 44:6, 49:6, 69:21 Metaphorically - 21 :1 Michael - 6:14, 7:10, 16:18, 18:11, 18:21, 70:16, 72:5, 72:9 Michell - 37:13 Might - 10:4, 21:5, 35:13, 53:21, 59:1, 59:19, 63:16, 78:16, 79:4, 84:9 Military - 62:13, 62:14 Million - 35:3, 35:5, EFTA00113570 36:25, 37:5, 37:7, 56:11, 58:12 Mind - 9:10, 33:10, 72:5 Minimum - 11:8, 21:18 Minutes - 53:7 Missing - 61:25 Mistake - 10:11 Mitchell - 37:9, 58:20, 68:2, 76:23, 77:22, 77:23, 77:25, 78:1 Mm - 14:2, 32:16, 43:11, 46:22, 50:13, 50:23, 52:1, 56:19, 58:16, 65:12, 68:19, 70:9, 72:10, 79:7, 80:3 Mobile - 77:18 Mom's - 55:23 Money - 28:11, 41:12, 41:21, 41:23, 58:9, 58:14, 64:12, 65:25, 78:4, 80:1, 80:5, 82:8, 82:18, 82:20 Monitor - 35:18 Monitors - 47:10 Month - 31:2 Months - 45:8, 47:19 More - 6:6, 7:16, 12:20, 20:18, 21:20, 21:21, 22:15, 27:19, 27:24, 64:12, 74:25, 82:18, 83:15 Morning - 30:20, 52:3, 70:17 Most - 33:20, 34:12, 55:15, 78:22 Mother - 31:22, 44:21, 55:6, 55:14, 64:20, 66:20 Move - 7:20, 15:18, 50:16, 50:17 Moved - 15:14, 15:21, 18:1, 18:10, 55:14, 60:7, 60:23 Much - 7:16, 8:7, 24:22, 36:24, 37:9, 41:3, 43:11, 56:4, 57:17, 58:9, 69:11, 78:9 Murder - 14:12, 24:5, 26:22, 75:1 Murdered - 71:2, 71:4, 71:7 Myself - 3:10, 3:13, 63:16 N Name - 3:14, 3:15, 4:4, 5:12, 23:11, 38:3, 38:4, 52:9, 69:14, 77:17, 80:15 Names - 80:13 Nature - 38:16 Neck - 7:15, 12:13, 13:9, 14:23, 15:8, 20:16, 20:24, 21:3, 21:7, 22:2, 22:4, 22:9, 23:17, 25:23, 52:21 Need - 7:5, 40:2, 41:12 Needed - 7:2 Negative - 67:16 Neil - 50:10 Net - 47:25 Never - 9:7, 32:22, 42:22, 43:8, 43:9, 45:8, 64:5, 64:9, 73:14 New - 3:6, 6:18, 7:23, 46:16 News - 29:8 Next - 6:11, 30:18, 72:24 Night - 11:2, 25:5, 30:5, 30:12, 33:7, 37:20, 54:16 Nights - 57:21 Nobody - 9:19, 9:21, 10:19, 15:6, 15:7, 16:11, 51:9, 67:14, 67:15, 70:18, 70:20, 73:20 Noel - 23:20 Non - 28:14, 33:24, 44:10, 45:22, 46:3, 46:14, 70:2 Noose - 14:23, 16:14, 16:20, 21:12, 22:8, 22:10, 22:19, 25:10 Nooses - 22:6 Nope - 54:4 Normally - 6:23, 14:13 Note - 10:16, 45:5 Nothing - 9:8, 35:24, 41:15, 78:21 Noticed - 29:23 Notified - 8:4 Number - 10:12, 11:15, 20:17, 23:4, 31:17, 32:5, 38:13, 38:19, 40:5, 56:12, 57:24, 70:15, 77:15, 77:18 NYPD - 49:5 O Obviously - 39:1, 53:6, 60:7, 64:21 Off - 9:16, 9:25, 14:23, 15:2, 15:7, 17:10, 24:12, 42:19, 42:21, 43:2, 50:3, 82:8 Office - 3:3, 3:6, 3:7, 3:19, 6:21, 8:3, 15:19, 74:16 Official - 20:4 Often - 30:23 Oh - 5:8, 14:6, 23:17, 29:2, 41:3, 43:18, 53:17, 60:18, 61:12, 70:1, 71:10, 72:22, 77:14 OIG - 4:16 Old - 24:4, 48:7, 66:4 Older - 55:10 Only - 5:8, 14:21, 43:3, 53:7, 54:24, 58:24, 60:15 Open - 48:2, 53:10, 59:23 Opened - 60:21 Operations - 50:15 Opinion - 21:19, 30:1 Opposed - 21:20 Orange - 17:6 O'reilly - 29:9, 29:10 Ori inall - 62:20 - 50:1 0, 50:12 Other's - 41:11 Otherwise - 83:15 Our - 14:15, 55:15, 63:2 Outside - 9:13, 42:25, 43:15, 47:10, 60:20, 77:12 Over - 28:12, 32:4, 64:19 Owes - 28:13 Own - 12:2 P Pages - 44:19 Paid - 35:17, 41:21, 56:13, 81:18 Paper - 19:3 Papers - 26:14, 42:6, 43:3, 43:13, 66:15 Paperwork - 23:19, 73:3 Parents - 55:1, 63:3 Paris - 30:16 Park - 46:6 Part - 14:13, 16:24, 28:21, 32:24, 44:25, 56:3, 56:23, 81:6 Participate - 34:6, 57:2, 66:24 Parties - 66:24, 67:3 Pass - 63:18 Passport - 48:7 Passports - 45:14 Pathologist - 6:12, 6:13, 6:24, 7:11, 74:21 Pay - 28:11 Pays - 28:12, 67:11 Pending - 7:21, 7:22, 73:12, 73:13 Perceiving - 65:17 Percentage - 28:13 Perhaps - 61:8 Period - 66:6 Persisted - 8:9 Person - 37:16, 58:18, 80:18 Personal - 39:24, 59:20 Personally - 9:20, 29:18 Pertains - 14:16 Phone - 83:12 Phonetic - 6:14, 22:25, 43:19, 50:11, 52:10, 66:2, 80:12 Photo - 5:11, 53:19 Photographs - 15:2 2, 51:23, 52:3, 53:18, 61:8, 71:17, 75:11 Photos - 11:15 Picture - 5:12, 8:21, 11:24, 12:8, 16:10, 38:19, 53:12, 60:2, 60:4, 60:21, 61:5 Pictures - 7:18, 8:15, 9:2, 12:3, 15:8, 17:11, 22:21, 39:10, 59:20 Place - 36:19, 39:15, 64:19, 68:25, 69:13, 73:17, 73:18 Placed - 42:18, 42:20 Plan - 70:23 Planet - 10:1, 34:19 Planning - 42:13, 44:17 PLAYS - 28:17 Pleasure - 84:9 Plugged - 60:6 Plus - 7:17, 20:23, 25:7, 56:11 Pocket - 82:18 Point - 45:7, 82:17 Pool - 37:11 Poor - 67:13 Position - 18:12, 18:19, 72:6, 72:8 Positive - 43:23, 67:15 Possibly - 64:3 Post - 58:8 Poster - 52:8 Potentially - 13:5, 62:25, 63:12 Power - 29:20 Practically - 24:16 Preparation - 49:21 Present - 3:7, 6:22, 74:23, 74:24 President - 29:7 Pressure - 21:4 Pretty - 13:15, 25:21, 35:1, 57:17, 62:10 Prior - 29:14, 29:16, 31:25, 37:18, 57:14, 71:1 Private - 64:17, 67:9, 81:13 Privilege - 49:20 Privy - 41:24 Probably - 26:23, 28:10, 78:2 Problem - 61:14 Proctologist - 34:1 8 Professional - 9:24 Progressed - 6:6 Proof - 26:22 Prosecution - 20:10 , 33:24, 43:24, 44:10, 45:1, 45:23, 46:3, 46:14, 70:1, 70:2 Prostitute - 44:21 Protect - 49:19 Provide - 13:20, 76:18, 76:24 Providing - 12:2 Provocative - 47:6 Public - 42:3, 46:2, 65:17 Publicly - 33:21, 68:22 EFTA00113571 Pull - 10:13, 11:16 Pulse -53:5 Purple - 18:7 Put - 14:22, 22:2, 24:7, 27:9, 34:11, 37:9, 37:10, 37:12, 41:19, 41:20, 42:1, 57:7, 67:20, 78:4 Q Quality - 64:24 Question - 15:13, 17:1, 18:1, 23:7, 23:18, 62:21, 82:21, 82:22 Questionable - 7:13 Questioning • 51:2 4 Questions - 8:13, 8:18 R Raised - 63:14 Range - 58:12 Rare - 12:13 Rather - 55:16 Reach - 79:18, 79:22 Reached - 4:13, 4:14, 59:7 Reaching - 37:15 Reaction - 41:4 Reading - 26:14 Real - 27:2, 28:4, 73:9 Realized - 26:13, 26:19 Really - 8:7, 13:3, 14:1, 60:5, 66:18, 77:20, 78:22 Reason - 6:4, 8:5, 27:15, 60:23, 62:20, 62:23, 64:10, 65:7 Reasons - 12:19, 42:22 Reboot - 23:5 Recall - 16:6 Received - 19:16 Recently - 19:8 Reconnected - 78:3 , 78:5 Record - 4:9, 5:13 Recorded - 75:5, 75:9, 75:10 Recorder - 3:1, 75:8 Recording - 3:13, 11:25, 71:17, 75:13, 75:14, 75:16 Records - 68:7 Redemption - 15:1 Refer - 34:17 Regards - 3:11 Rehabilitate - 66:9 Relationship - 38:1 4, 38:21, 39:5 Relative - 63:3 Released - 10:25, 14:8, 65:16 Releases - 13:25 Religious - 63:13 Relying - 69:25 Remember - 30:7, 32:21, 36:23, 40:12, 57:23 Report - 9:4, 11:4, 20:4 Reported - 6:3 Reporter - 29:8 Reputation - 66:9 Requested - 7:3 Respect - 63:8 Respected - 6:4 Rest - 68:11 Results - 9:7, 73:8 Review - 6:21, 6:24 Ribs -13:13 - 80:11, 80:19, 80:20, 81:16 Richmond - 3:24 Rid - 60:11 Riots - 7:7 Robin - 12:15 Robs - 28:9 - 16:4, 50:10 Rolled - 52:18 Rolling - 82:25 Romantic - 38:21, 39:5 Room - 17:19, 20:20, 47:7, 53:13, 53:16, 59:22, 60:20 Roughed - 22:6 Rub - 21:6 Ruled • 35:7 Run • 17:14 S Safe - 48:2 Same - 25:10, 46:4, 68:1 Sates - 35:4 Saturday • 30:20, 74:7 Saw - 9:7, 9:20, 14:25, 15:22, 31:23, 49:7, 72:6 Say - 6:9, 14:22, 27:21, 28:5. 38:2, 39:4, 39:21, 41:3, 47:5, 48:23, 58:6, 65:1, 66:20, 68:23 Saying - 9:12, 16:16, 24:5, 33:21, 37:17, 65:25, 67:4, 67:6, 69:17, 71:11, 73:19 Says - 60:11, 82:10 Scare - 45:14 Scenes - 60:14 Scheduled • 36:20 School • 44:24 Screen - 46:24 Screwed - 28:11, 68:2 SD - 46:21 Search • 47:21, 47:22, 47:23 Second - 7:2, 7:5, 15:9, 16:10, 75:24 Secretions - 20:25, 25:23 Security - 27:2, 47:11 Seeing - 66:4 Seem - 62:8 Seems - 51:15, 55:16 Seen - 31:19, 31:20, 32:2, 32:23, 39:11, 45:5, 59:17, 59:25, 62:11, 78:1 Self - 21:4 Send - 61:10, 61:20, 71:19, 77:2, 83:23, 83:25 Senior - 3:9, 3:17, 5:19 Sense • 35:25, 63:21, 74:19 Sent - 32:11, 49:8, 54:20 Sentence - 63:1 Sentenced - 46:1 Separate - 34:22 September - 3:5, 84:11 Served - 46:1 Set - 31:8, 48:17, 66:25 Settle • 64:22, 64:24 Settled • 64:23 Seven • 31:25, 32:2 Sex - 44:20 Share - 4:15 Shawshank • 15:1 She • 7:12, 38:18, 39:4, 39:8, 39:14, 39:18, 39:21, 40:9, 40:14, 40:21, 40:24, 41:3, 46:25, 65:1, 65:3, 67:4, 67:6, 67:12, 75:3 Sheet - 17:14, 20:18, 20:23, 21:21, 22:19, 52:21 She's - 38:18, 45:16, 81:15 Ship - 51:11 Shirt - 17:7 Shit -15:9,27:19, 41:4, 62:12, 62:16, 73:2 Shocking - 62:17 Shoes - 63:10 Shone • 43:18, 43:25, 44:3, 44:6, 68:21, 69:7, 69:20, 69:22, 76:22, 76:23 Shone's - 77:15 Shorts - 17:6, 17:12 Should - 23:22, 34:6, 49:19, 50:5, 50:8, 62:14, 77:5, 77:6 Shouldn't - 79:21 Show - 7:19, 10:14, 11:9, 11:19, 13:18, 14:20, 20:7, 27:14, 45:16, 49:16, 57:3, 58:2, 64:7 Showed - 9:14, 48:21 Showing - 9:2, 16:25 Shown - 5:10, 65:4 Shows - 60:5 SHU - 68:13, 72:16 - 38:4, 38:9 Shunned - 65:20 Shunning - 66:7 Shut - 67:13, 79:17 Sibling - 54:24 Siblings - 54:23 Side - 60:6, 64:20 Sign - 28:14, 45:1 Since - 7:7, 25:9, 31:23, 35:10, 39:12, 40:5, 45:4, 65:21 Sifting - 18:14 Six - 21:17 Sizes - 25:21 Skin - 20:25, 21:4, 22:5 Slam - 80:2, 82:16 Sleeves - 82:25 Slept - 53:14 Slides - 28:15 Slip - 22:3 Small - 56:23 Social - 34:15, 79:13 Society - 65:21 Soft - 12:14, 12:17 Some - 4:20, 8:15, 9:2, 28:22, 34:20, 37:9, 37:12, 45:14, 48:7, 48:14, 55:25, 60:23, 67:1, 67:2, 83:5, 83:14 Somebody • 9:6, 10:6, 10:23, 11:1, 17:19, 23:8, 23:25, 24:2, 24:3, 24:7, 24:8, 26:25, 27:13, 48:13, 60:23 Someone - 17:4, 24:13, 24:17, 24:24, 27:17, 27:19, 33:16, 37:18, 51:3 Somewhere - 56:11 , 58:11 Soon - 11:24, 66:14 Sorry - 76:3 Sort - 14:23, 73:19 Sound - 39:19 Sounded - 39:18, 40:18 Southern -46:5 Sp - 6:14, 22:25, 43:19, 50:11, 52:10, 66:2, 80:12 Speak - 33:14, 40:3, 43:9, 50:5, 50:7, 77:6 Special - 3:2, 3:9, 3:15, 3:17, 5:15, 5:19, 7:6, 84:13 Specific - 23:11 Specifically - 40:8, 40:15, 69:16 Spell - 3:14, 80:15 Spoke - 30:4, 32:4, 33:7, 33:12, 33:16, 33:22, 37:17, 38:6, 38:8, 40:16, 54:15, 54:17, 54:19, 69:4, 75:18 Spoken • 39:2, 39:12, 43:14, 47:14, 78:1 Squeeze - 15:25 Squeezing -52:24 Stacey - 3:8, 4:2 Stand - 6:25 Standard - 25:21 Standing • 75:25 Start - 9:2 Started • 3:1, 62:4, EFTA00113572 67:4, 67:6, 67:12 State - 3:14, 12:1, 33:10, 47:23 Stated - 4:4, 4:14 Statement - 9:12, 10:8, 14:6, 19:2 Statements - 18:22 19:17 States - 5:12, 63:24 Stating - 20:6 Station - 72:14 Steve - 26:7, 26:9, 49:7, 49:9 Still - 37:4, 69:1 Stop - 8:19 Stopped - 26:12, 26:15, 26:18 Stories - 31:6, 42:16, 68:20 Story - 48:9, 64:20, 66:13, 66:16 Straight - 22:16 Strange - 9:20 Strangle - 20:17, 21:1, 22:15, 22:22 Street - 47:1, 48:13 Strongest - 29:24, 29:25, 30:2 Stuck - 21:6 Stuff - 17:10, 31:5, 32:18, 34:21, 35:3, 45:20, 47:4, 59:16, 60:22, 71:24, 77:12, 78:8 Stupid - 63:19 Stupidest - 10:1 Subpoenaed - 32:1 5 Successful - 82:17 Such - 6:3, 42:25 Suit - 79:19, 79:25, 82:16 Super - 77:20 Supervisor - 19:22 Supposed - 10:22, 10:25, 15:15, 15:18, 15:19, 36:14, 36:18, 41:19, 50:17 Supposedly - 10:24 , 15:16, 61:3 Sure - 5:3, 9:18, 42:10, 57:7, 63:20, 73:1, 80:21 Surprise - 15:20, 62:11 Surprised - 40:24, 43:22, 62:8, 62:9, 62:17, 76:13 Surrounding - 64:1 5 Swabbed - 9:4, 9:5 Sweetheart - 44:15, 44:16 Swung - 59:23 System -47:2, 47:16, 51:13 T Take - 6:5, 17:9, 21:19, 29:20, 35:19, 35:21, 36:18, 51:17, 52:3, 56:1, 63:16, 64:8 Taken - 11:2, 11:6, 42:19, 42:21, 43:2 Takes - 21:7, 24:6 Taking - 4:6, 49:14, 84:7 Talk - 4:7, 11:11, 16:4, 16:12, 24:24, 30:24, 30:25, 41:16, 50:9, 69:8, 70:14, 72:14, 72:17, 72:19, 72:24, 76:14, 76:15, 83:14, 84:8 Talked - 39:22, 40:8, 50:3, 79:2 Talking - 12:22, 28:24, 49:24, 52:6, 72:5, 74:18, 77:7, 77:20 Tape - 9:18, 17:21, 26:9, 49:7, 49:18, 49:19, 49:25, 72:11, 78:18 Tapes - 48:13, 48:14 49:23 - 68:17, 68:22, 68:25, 69:1, 69:6 Taste - 33:23 Team - 45:17 Technically - 37:7, 56:25 Telephone - 32:5, 37:18 Tell - 25:24, 25:25, 27:25, 31:7, 33:1, 34:21, 39:14, 40:15, 55:19 Telling - 31:4, 78:23 Tendencies - 64:8 Term - 62:25, 81:11 Terms - 54:23 Test - 73:6, 73:7, 73:8, 73:10 Testimony - 32:15 Testing - 9:7 Than - 7:10, 27:20, 27:24, 43:13, 64:12, 73:3, 73:19, 75:1, 79:10 Thank - 4:6, 84:7 Their - 44:19, 66:23, 82:25 Theory - 46:21 There's - 6:8, 7:9, 8:15, 10:5, 23:15, 23:16, 23:17, 25:7, 45:12, 53:5, 53:13, 54:11, 61:24, 63:3, 66:13, 68:20, 78:21, 82:22, 83:5 They're - 15:18, 16:6, 26:14, 48:14, 55:24, 57:16, 66:15, 66:18, 81:22, 82:20, 82:25, 83:1 They've - 83:1 Thing - 6:10, 12:16, 12:17, 14:20, 16:20, 23:22, 27:14, 47:4, 52:23, 53:12, 55:21, 65:20, 65:21, 66:5, 68:1 Things -4:15, 6:6, 7:14, 9:10, 9:11, 10:3, 11:4, 11:14, 25:24, 31:8, 47:6, 70:25, 75:21, 77:8, 78:24, 79:1 Third - 80:25 Thomas - 16:18, 18:11, 18:22, 70:17, 72:5 Those - 12:17, 16:12, 35:2, 49:5, 50:12, 52:24, 82:10 Though - 28:6, 31:7, 39:22 Thought - 9:20, 12:19, 21:12, 32:19, 32:20, 33:23, 58:18, 74:3 Threats - 49:4 Three - 12:12, 12:18 Throat - 52:23 Through -4:13, 8:1, 8:16, 17:4, 23:25, 24:1, 35:7, 62:6, 66:7, 71:20, 76:25, 84:2 Throughout -47:13 Thursday - 30:5, 30:12. 33:7 Thus - 50:4 Tide - 67:12 Tied - 16:21, 16:25 Tier - 8:14, 8:16, 9:14, 9:22, 10:3, 10:4, 10:7, 25:16, 69:1, 70:16 Times - 24:12, 31:24, 40:5 Tipia - 22:25 Today - 3:4, 4:7 Together - 34:16 Too - 7:13, 10:5, 39:24 Took - 8:21, 15:23, 17:2, 17:17, 39:15, 51:1, 51:23, 53:5, 68:25, 73:17, 73:18 Top - 9:11, 14:24, 15:4, 16:10, 37:6 Touch - 49:4 Tova - 23:19 Towards - 64:8 Traditional - 51:13 Traditionally - 41:1 0 Trained - 51:18 Transferred - 24:12, 82:8 Transported - 27:1 Trial - 35:23 Tried - 72:14, 79:18 Trouble -44:13, 46:7, 55:11, 55:20 Troublemaker - 27: 7 Trump - 26:3, 26:13, 26:15, 26:18, 26:19, 27:16, 27:17, 27:22, 28:2, 28:3, 29:6, 29:7, 29:18, 29:21 Trust - 41:19, 41:20, 41:22, 41:24, 49:1, 82:9 Trustee - 41:24, 80:8 Trustees - 81:24, 82:5, 82:11 Try - 34:20, 52:24, 53:10, 72:23 Trying - 14:22, 15:24, 16:2, 31:3, 42:7, 51:8, 51:16, 51:17, 66:9, 68:23, 72:20 Tube - 15:25 Turning - 67:12 Turns - 18:7, 53:16 TV - 66:25 Type - 58:13 U Uh - 15:12, 21:24, 67:22, 72:15, 78:19 Uncontroverted - 2 1:10 Uncuff - 27:5 Under - 9:4, 24:2, 35:17, 53:7, 82:11 Underaged - 45:6, 45:19 Understand - 4:12, 41:18, 45:5, 71:11, 76:5 Understanding - 41 :13 Unfortunately -11: 16 United - 35:4, 63:24 Unnamed -45:2, 70:15 Unplugged - 8:24 Unreliable -44:18 Unresponsive - 11: 5, 11:7 Until - 30:24, 59:18, 78:2 Upbeat - 33:23, 39:18, 40:19, 69:22 Us - 4:7, 4:14, 11:19, 12:2, 12:3, 50:7, 60:14, 61:7, 62:3, 68:12, 71:14, 71:20, 78:14, 78:23, 79:5, 83:12, 84:8 Use - 31:11, 42:7, 47:24, 53:1 Used - 22:11, 31:6, 45:12, 53:15, 59:15, 59:16, 65:22, 66:20 Useful - 13:15 Using - 33:24 Usual - 30:16 Usually - 12:17 V Verify - 4:22, 5:2 Very - 24:22, 33:22, 43:11, 44:18, 47:7, 48:5, 59:18, 69:11, 72:7 Vessels - 22:23 Via - 78:13 Victim - 66:22 Victims - 41:21, 44:17, 46:25, 53:1, 66:17, 66:18, 67:7, 67:13, 67:17, 82:19 Videne -45:6 Video - 9:18, 17:19, 26:9, 28:17, 28:18, 32:11, 32:22, 47:7, 47:16, 49:25, 51:4, 71:14, 72:11, 75:8, EFTA00113573 78:18 Viewed - 8:12, 9:13 W Wa - 39:24 Wait - 28:20, 35:21, 63:17, 63:20, 68:12, 80:13 Walk - 47:8 Walking - 8:16, 49:14 Want - 4:24, 18:11, 38:2, 39:23, 51:14, 64:12, 65:4, 65:5, 71:14, 81:6, 82:17 Wanted - 4:15, 27:14, 29:19, 42:10, 55:19, 64:13, 65:3, 76:1, 79:19 Wanting - 64:8 Wants - 45:16, 67:14, 67:16 Warrant - 47:21, 47:22, 47:23 Wasn't - 8:18, 8:22, 11:1, 11:6, 13:16, 16:21, 17:14, 34:8, 47:13, 57:24, 62:9, 62:16, 63:19, 64:10, 65:10, 71:3, 76:11 Watch - 6:25, 10:24, 42:18, 42:21, 43:2 Water - 24:2 Way - 6:8, 14:21, 18:17, 22:17, 63:4, 64:15, 65:7, 65:14, 65:18, 77:19, 80:1 Wealth - 28:10 Wealthy - 48:5 Wear - 50:22 Wearing - 17:3, 17:5, 17:6 Web - 9:17 Wednesday - 3:4 Week - 31:1 Weeks - 24:16, 31:1, 32:5, 40:13, 68:16 Weights - 48:19 We'll - 83:15 Went - 6:20, 9:19, 9:21, 9:25, 10:9, 36:2, 46:25, 62:6, 66:7, 70:19, 73:20 We're -8:15, 12:21, 12:22, 29:5, 45:17, 61:25, 63:13, 66:18 Weren't - 50:16, 58:7 We've - 50:3, 71:12 Wexlon - 66:2 What's - 12:14, 31:4, 77:17, 82:10 Where - 8:10, 17:21, 19:1, 22:12, 23:13, 31:14, 34:16, 63:22, 65:24, 68:24, 74:18 Which - 9:20, 12:13, 12:19, 12:22, 15:15, 18:22, 21:19, 44:15, 48:14, 49:23, 52:5, 52:25, 53:15, 55:13, 57:18, 70:3, 73:18 While - 79:9 Whole - 11:14, 65:19, 66:16 Who's - 26:8 Will - 11:9, 11:16, 21:4, 25:1, 25:24, 41:8, 41:10, 41:13, 42:1, 42:2, 42:5, 42:10, 83:14 - 52:11 Williams - 12:15 Willing - 50:6, 57:4 Wills -41:11 Wind - 17:16 Wires - 8:23 Witness - 6:13 Witnessed - 49:21 Witnesses - 10:5, 44:18 Woman - 64:24, 67:1 Women - 45:6, 45:20, 64:19 Won't - 21:2, 21:6, 22:9, 72:19, 72:24 Word - 48:18, 84:10 Work - 33:2 Worked - 25:8, 26:7, 26:8, 26:11, 47:15, 59:14, 81:14, 81:15 Working - 8:18, 8:19, 8:22, 8:25, 13:16, 17:20 Works - 59:10 World - 6:8 Worried - 57:24 Worry - 63:1, 63:2 Worse - 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