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be NO Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO Ke} a oO he be No (ee) = Hs Oo _ OY a ~] a oO a Ke} 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 16 of 158 16 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 467 _ Filed 11/15/21 LBAAMAX1ps Rocchio — Direct techniques to arrive at the -- my professional opinion. Q. What if any licenses do you have? A. I'm Licensed to practice psychology currently in the states of Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and New York. Q. In your career, for approximately how many years -- THE COURT: sorry. May I ask, Dr. Roc you made about not taking what someone says at distinguish that as part of have to dea not my job to go out and verit chio, that point face value, you forensic practice? your THE WITNESS: Yes. THE COURT: THE WITNESS: In my clinical And what about in your clinical practice? practice, it's not -- l with what the patients tell me in It's the room. Fy any part of wha t's being told in the clinical room, but, rather, to hear what they're telling me and then relate that back to my other skills-training xperience, the scientific literature. Someone, for example, might report to me symptoms of depression. I could ask them how that's manifesting in their life, but I don't go to their house to see if they're actually staying in bed all day. That kind of thing. THE COURT: Thank you. BY MS. POMERANTZ: Q. Dr. Rocchio, in your career, for approximately how many years have you trea A. 30, ted and assessed patients? maybe slightly more than 30 years at this point. SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00007195