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S U PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL TO: FROM: DATE: RE: Ghislaine Maxwell Defense Team T&M USA, LLC ("T&M") Intelligence & Investigations 8/12/2021 Lauren Mack Interview of 230 Park Avenue, Suite 440, New York, NY 10169 • Tel: 212.422.0000 • www.tmusallc.com • Page 1 Page I of 5 This business is licensed by the New York Department of State, Division of Licensing Services EFTA00155635 TeRA A PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL stated the following, in sum and substance on 7/23/2021: • I was a licensed masseuse and met Jeffrey through my modeling agency (Bella Agency). • Ghislaine was a corporate type and at the time she was taking helicopter lessons to get her license and she was more of a house manager. I never saw her with young girls or heard her on the phone arranging things with girls for Jeffrey. • She wanted her pilot's license so she could fly him to the Island. • I had the impression she was handling business for him. • She was around and then she wouldn't be, then she'd be around and then she wouldn't be. She would come and go and handle his business. • I was only involved with Jeffrey for a year, I just followed around with him. • I didn't see anything bad ever, there were no red flags, there was nothing alarming that I saw. When I first found out everything that happened, I was in shock. At the time I was with him was my early 20's. • There were women and friends that would come, who were a lot older than I was at the time, in their 30's and would have something romantic with him. • Then all these things came out about underage girls in New Mexico, but I never saw that. • I was at Zorro when it was under construction. I never saw the finished ranch. • There was either a big mobile home that was there before or some type of structure built. I stayed there with other girls. They were all my age, early 20's or older. There were no young girls there in New Mexico. 230 Park Avenue, Suite 440, New York, NY 10169 • Tel: 212.422.0000 • www.tmusallc.com • Page 2 Page 2 of 5 This business is licensed by the New York Department of State, Division of Licensing Services EFTA00155636 TeRA A PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL • There were never any young girls. I never saw young girls-but I read in the news he was keeping one in his NY apartment. That apartment was 5 stories high and when you went in, you only went into certain rooms. • I left Jeffrey right before 2000, I was with him in 1999-ish. I checked the timeline in the paper and that was when one of the girls was there never saw her though. • I am looking back at my age now, and I feel like I was being prepped to be exchanged around. I just didn't know it. • He would come up to L.A and send me out to his friends. The first person he sent me to was a girl (not GM) and then he sent me out to a man, and he wanted something extra and so I stopped. I told Jeffrey what-the-fuck and after that he didn't send me out for any more knowing I was not down for that. I was really upset. It was as if Jeffrey told him something. • Ghislaine was not involved at all with sending me out to these people. Jeffrey would just call me up and say this is who I'd like you to give a massage to. She was around but I never saw her do anything shady. I have thought back to that time to see if there were any red flags about her, but nothing-no red flags at all. • I wanted Ghislaine to like me because I was a hard-core co-dependent people pleaser. We got along, but she made me cry one time. We went to London, and I met an Irishman there and we had a fling. Ghislaine and Jeffrey thought he was a terrorist and I stopped seeing him. Ghislaine was mad at me and I'm overly sensitive and started to cry. Jeffrey was like my dad, a father figure and upset-so I was really upset. • I never saw him like a creepy guy. He had so many women after him at that time. He was the bachelor everyone wanted, very charming. • I saw Prince Andrew and Donald Trump. He wanted me to give Prince Andrew a massage, but I didn't feel good about that. I wonder if he was offering me to him to do more. Ghislaine was not involved in that. • There have been so many reporters and I haven't talked to anybody because I have children and I don't want my name out there. A part of me wants to tell my side of the story and about stuff that happened while modeling before I met Jeffrey, but my boyfriend says no because the public and my children will think bad things about me. • I moved to NY and went to a modeling agency (Bella), and they sent me to go see Jeffrey for a Victoria Secret shoot because Jeffrey was involved with Les Wexner. I was 25 years old. 230 Park Avenue, Suite 440, New York, NY 10169 • Tel: 212.422.0000 • www.tmusallc.com • Page 3 Page 3 of 5 This business is licensed by the New York Department of State, Division of Licensing Services EFTA00155637 S U PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL • I tried on clothes and Jeffrey started talking to me and we spoke for 5-6 hours-he got my entire life story and he said he would take care of me, that I would be fine. Ghislaine was not there. • Ghislaine never "groomed" me, I didn't see her sending girls to him. • None of those girls you read about have reached out to me. • I don't know any of them. • I watched a few documentaries and the first Netflix documentary. • I didn't know think that was the girl he kept at his house. There's a picture of her wit rince n rews and Ghislaine is in the background. • The FBI or any other attorneys have not called me. • You can call me if you want. • It seems like they want someone to take the fall for Jeffrey. additional responses on 8/11/2021, follow in sum and substance: • The only name I remember from female visitors waM(Mack's spelling), she visited once on the island, she was around my age, mid 20's. • In New Mexico Jeffrey was just pretty much showing any visitors the progress he was making on building his big house there-that's what was going on there. • At first, I thought Ghislaine was his girlfriend, then I thought she was more like a business partner or assistant—it wasn't really clear- so I just thought she was kind of like both. • After hearing the stories of the victims that came out, I then obviously replayed everything back in my mind and I did wonder if I was being set up to be exchanged, if there was an ulterior motive because that did happen to me while modeling (before I met Jeffrey). But I did not think Jeffrey was going to exchange me around, none of that occurred to me at that time. • He did send me on a few massages, they were friends of his, it was he himself who asked me, it was never anyone else who asked me. I assumed that they were gifts because he was paying me for them; he never gave me any instructions for the massages-just the address and I don't remember where any of them lived, it was such a long time ago. • I do remember when I first met Jeffrey there was another girl there, I can't remember her name but oh boy was she chasing after him. It just seemed like there were a lot of women chasing after him. • I didn't really see any other masseuses that were chasing after him in a romantic way. I never saw him pay them, but I'm pretty sure that he did. • It was like a vacation atmosphere there, it was very laid back and really very mellow. There were no drugs or alcohol. It was not like the Playboy Mansion; that bring a seedy 230 Park Avenue, Suite 440, New York, NY 10169 • Tel: 212.422.0000 • www.tmusallc.com • Page 4 Page 4 of 5 This business is licensed by the New York Department of State, Division of Licensing Services EFTA00155638 TeM A PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL picture into my mind. It was not like that • No, he did not hit on me that first day that I met him when I was there talking to him for hours and hours. • It was not a Victoria's Secret shoot at his house when I first met him. I was told I was going on a casting for a fitting, so I did not see anyone else there except for some people that were employed by him who took care of his house. • No, I never felt like Ghislaine was grooming me. I never saw her bring anyone to him, I never saw or heard her on the phone booking photo shoots for girls, I actually don't think I ever saw her bring a friend over or a visitor, and I feel like she was just solo all the time. • With regards to Virginia, I was going through the timeline of everything and was wondering if she had been at the house shortly after I had met him... but I never saw her there. • I don't remember how much Jeffrey paid for each massage. • He would give me cash, but he would give me like a lump sum every month- so I guess it was more of like an allowance. • I didn't see any consistent masseuses working for him when I was there. The ones that would come over- it looked like they would be from an actual spa because they would have uniforms on. • He would have at least one massage a day. Definitely at least one. • The massages would occur, if in his house, he had a room with a massage table. And he also had, at his other houses, kind of like a designated area with a massage table. • The first few massages there were intimate things that happened afterwards, but then after that it was just normal massages. • Yes, I have gone back, thousands of times, in my mind, to see if there were any red flags that I saw or that looking through these eyes, that, I now know would be red flags- I didn't see anything that was alarming or concerning. • I went to his house in Palm Beach, we went to the UK- that was a trip with Ghislaine, the ranch and the island--there would be different visitors that would come for various lengths of time and stay and then leave. 230 Park Avenue, Suite 440, New York, NY 10169 • Tel: 212.422.0000 • www.tmusallc.com • Page 5 Page 5 0 This business is licensed by the New York Department of State, Division of Licensing Services EFTA00155639