EFTA00157958.pdf

FD.3/J2 (Rev. S.g.l0) -1 of 9 - FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION OFFICIAL RECORD Date of entry OR/II/2020 ), date of birth (DOB) was interviewed via video conference with her attorneys and Also present via video was Assistant United States Attorneys and , and Special Agent After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: moved from when she was approximately 11 years old. did not go to high school because she made "so much money" in middle school going to JEFFREY EPSTEIN's (EPSTEIN) residence. At the time, was living with her mother. As of the date of this interview, had been married for years and had children. son's father, , was friends with met girlfriend, , who asked if she wanted to make money. Before went to EPSTEIN's residence, and would hang out together and smoke pot. believed she was 14 years old when she met EPSTEIN asked to go overseas with him and she "slipped up"; told EPSTEIN she was 14 years old and would have to get permission from her mother. was told to tell EPSTEIN she was 17 years old going on 18. told to tell EPSTEIN she was 17. was young and did not want to get anyone in trouble. The first time went to EPSTEIN's residence, drove her there. and went into the residence after GBISLAINE MAXWELL (MAXWELL) answered the door. described the door that she entered being through the first driveway and it was the side door to the kitchen. Immtigatimon 07/17/2020 Hen 50D-NY-3027571 at West Palm Beach, Florida, United States 1, Other (Video)) pmcdriffid 07/27/2020 by This document contains neither n. ndattons nor corn:hi:nous of the 1131 It is the properly of the Fill and is loaned to your agency; it and lb contents ati: not to be distributed outside your agency. 3505-068 Page I of9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005830 EFTA00157958 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) 500—NY-3027571 cominugion orm.302 or (U) Interview of MAXWELL told took .0, 07/17/2020 .fts, 2 of 9 to takc upstairs and show her what to do. up the stairs and through EPSTEIN's bedroom to his bathroom. There was a closet that had the massage table in it. showed the drawer where the lotions, toys, and "all kinds of things" were held. After the massage, stayed in the room while got dressed and went downstairs. received a phone call at her house approximately a week later and was picked up from her house. recalled MAXWELL introduce herself saying something like "My name is MAXWELL...nice to meet you." told MAXWELL her name. assumed EPSTEIN and MAXWELL were "together". described there being a lot of pictures of MAXWELL naked. recalled seeing a picture of MAXWELL pregnant. There were nude photographs in the room with the massage table all over the walls. There were nude photographs up the stairwell of MAXWELL and other people. met EPSTEIN approximately over 100 times. went to EPSTEIN's residence from approximately 14 to 17 years old. met EPSTEIN's friends, one of which she had to give a massage to a man, and had threesomes with females. When became pregnant her pregnancy began to show and EPSTEIN asked her if she had other girls to bring to him. After her call to go to EPSTEIN's home if she was in dire need for money. was approximately 17/18 years old and felt that she was too old. EPSTEIN wanted to bring younger females. Over the years, brought a couple friends to EPSTEIN. was born, would only stated she was a "hot mess" during that time; she is currently still battling demons over it. saw different female models throughout EPSTEIN's home. described there being approximately four to five rooms before EPSTEIN's room and saw models in some of those rooms. was not introduced to them; the models did not speak English well. MAXWELL asked for personal number. believed she gave her cell number but was not sure. also had a landline number at the time. thought MAXWELL and EPSTEIN had both of her numbers. MAXWELL and ) would call her on either number and ask 3505-068 Pagc 2 of 9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_0000583 I EFTA00157959 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD-NY-3027571 confinuation or FD•302 or (U) Interview of 0,, 07/17/2020 A1/42, 3 of 9 for her. At the time, there was a lot going on with family and no one questioned the calls. interacted with fairly early on in seeing EPSTEIN. A couple weeks after going to EPSTEIN's home, met thought was "pretty and very nice". called , identifying herself, and asked to come over for EPSTEIN. thought was EPSTEIN's secretary. first interaction with was when called asking her when she would be available. recalled a time where she went to EPSTEIN's home, and thought EPSTEIN was out jogging, so offered her something to drink. described MAXWELL as "pretty nice". When would be at EPSTEIN's home more than twice in a week, MAXWELL would seem agitated. MAXWELL said something like, "Oh, hi , you're back again." MAXWELL would then go to her office and close the door. When was paid, sometimes the money was laid out on the table. The money would sometimes be by the sink in the bathroom where the massages took place. Towards the beginning of going, MAXWELL paid approximately three to four times. MAXWELL paid $300 in "very crisp" hundred dollar bills. did not give money. recalled a time where she was given an envelope with concert tickets in it, but it was given to her by people she had not met before. The entirety of the time went to EPSTEIN's home, she saw MAXWELL there about 80% of the time. MAXWELL would say hello to remembered MAXWELL writing down name in a black address book, which also had phone number in it to get a hold of thought EPSTEIN and MAXWELL might have been a couple but she did not know. MAXWELL asked her age, and first told her she was 17 years old. MAXWELL asked questions to where thought MAXWELL was testing her. MAXWELL asked about her mother, sex life, and questions thought MAXWELL did not have a right to know. was uncomfortable talking with MAXWELL. had multiple conversations with MAXWELL. MAXWELL joked around with MAXWELL talked about nude parties she would have. EPSTEIN told that if thought she could get away to 3505-068 Page3a9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005832 EFTA00157960 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD-NY-3027571 Continuation or FD.392 or (U) Interview of .0„ 07/17/2020 .pne 4 of 9 travel, he would get an ID for her to say that she was older. EPSTEIN was persistent about going overseas. EPSTEIN told her she could get her license to be a massage therapist. never travelled with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN sent gifts from New York. These gifts, that included lingerie from Victoria's Secret, came from EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, and received different gifts. A couple times, there was $100 in the gift. received birthday cards that were signed by EPSTEIN or had his name on it. burned the gifts she received after EPSTEIN told her she was fat and getting too old. EPSTEIN gave tickets to see INCUBUS. met two women on the fairgrounds to get the tickets. There were text messages exchanged. would be asked if she could be ready at a certain time. Sometimes, she would be asked to wear a specific lingerie that EPSTEIN had sent her. felt they were forcing her to go out of the country. was asked if MAXWELL was a part of those conversations and she replied, "yes". There were approximately one to two times where EPSTEIN brought up if mother would allow her to go if MAXWELL accompanied her. thought she had a conversation about travel approximately three times. There was no way mother would have let her travel. The first time it was brought up, it was just and EPSTEIN. was 14 years old with no passport or identification. EPSTEIN then brought up MAXWELL going. At the time, mother had a drinking problem, among other things. and MAXWELL had a conversation about travel. MAXWELL told that she could get identification to go. recalled waiting for EPSTEIN to get back and it was just the two of them having this conversation. told MAXWELL she was 15 years old and there was no way her mother would let her go. MAXWELL never asked what and EPSTEIN did together. knew there were cameras in the clocks in the massage room. When asked how she knew, replied, "I just knew it, like I knew the FBI was across the street watching the house". clarified that she had a feeling that there were cameras in the clock. MAXWELL was not present for the 3505-068 Page 4 of 9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005833 EFTA00157961 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) 500—NY-3027571 cominumionoffD•302 or (U) Interview of sexual encounters EPSTEIN had with with 07/17/2020 .fts, 5 of 9 MAXWELL seemed to get agitated recalled there being a time where she was involved in a sexual encounter with EPSTEIN and another girl. MAXWELL told that someone would be joining them. MAXWELL said something like, "Oh we have a special guest and she is going to be joining you." EPSTEIN had sex with while and the girl "were going down on each other". recalled a different time where she was involved in a sexual encounter with EPSTEIN and another girl. EPSTEIN was masturbating while the girl was "going down on" and EPSTEIN had sex with the girl. EPSTEIN tried to use a sex toy on and she was not willing to do that. her name. photo of involved recalled recalled the girl introduced herself but she did not recall [Agent note: At this point, attorney showed her a and acknowledged this was the girl in the sexual acts.) said she knew she met her having an accent. and thought it was the same woman for both the encounters, but was not sure about the second time. MAXWELL was not around when the second sexual encounter happened. recalled EPSTEIN returning for a run and the cook had made her a fruit salad. she minded if and got in the sauna. her. saw in passing and asked if went and set everything up. EPSTEIN came upstairs The girl, who had blonde hair, was there as well. was going to receive $500 for photographs that were taken of called asking if i took nude photographs of . The EPSTEIN had been on a trip and them when he came back from his trip. be comfortable having the photos taken, photos were taken inside and outside. about her age; felt that that was not of age. into the massage room to restock lotion giving EPSTEIN a massage. would have been nude when this t was ok to take photos. day took photos of was told that EPSTEIN would want asked where ei cher inside or outside. remembered talking knew her age, saying it was obvious recalled a time where came while was in the middle of she would The to 3505-068 Pagc 5 of 9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005834 EFTA00157962 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) EPSTEIN told her he was a famous actor. EPSTEIN walked This man give her massaged years old at the time and planning on running SOD-NY-3027571 conuinuation or FD•302 or (U) Interview of •o 07/17/2020 .fts, 6 of 9 happened. stated after the first few times she gave EPSTEIN a massage, the routine had changed to where she would be nude when EPSTEIN came in the room. recalled seeing MAXWELL in nude photos with EPSTEIN. assumed they were a couple but never asked. received calls to set up times for her to go to EPSTEIN's home. These calls were sometimes from MAXWELL. Early on, received calls from MAXWELL then the calls came from . Most of the time, received calls from felt MAXWELL was aggravated that was there a lot. After had been going for years, MAXWELL asked her if she had found any friends. MAXWELL said something like, "Oh have you found any younger friends yet". took this to mean younger than her. MAXWELL was very casual about it. EPSTEIN had already asked if she had younger friends. never asked this. described this being a different feel, like she needed to be replaced. got this feeling from everyone. felt more comfortable with was an adult but younger. secretary. always saw than thought with a book anyone else because was EPSTEIN's and a pen. Towards the end of time with EPSTEIN, she did not know where MAXWELL had gone, as she was no longer around. MAXWELL was not important to so she did not ask where she had gone. remained around. recalled giving a massage to "somebody famous". This man fondled while he masturbated. EPSTEIN who told her to massage this man. living room with EPSTEIN and he was showing her thought it may have been recalled being in the artwork on the wall. was confused. EPSTEIN told her, "I have a friend staying over." upstairs. described the man as balding with black hair, older, and chunky. said, "I'm going to fondle you while extra money if he could ejaculate on him, he told her she was good at it. I masturbate." The man would her breasts. When recalled being 15 away from home. [Agent note: 3505-068 Pagc 6 of 9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005835 EFTA00157963 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) 500—NY-3027571 cominuationorrD•302o1 (U) Interview of Ge 07/17/2020 page 7 of 9 attorney showed her a photo of HARVEY WEINSTEIN and asked if this was the man. shook her head yes.) When was asked if she had seen this man in the news recently, said, "no". had conversations with about other people. went missing. was worried because she did not know where had gone. has not had interactions with since. felt degraded. All of the money she received caused her to have drug problems. manage it. would take drugs before going to EPSTEIN's home to was advised not to talk. (Agent note: During a break in the interview, when was not in the room, attorney disclosed they had shown a photo of to in 2008 and at that time she could not identify When MAXWELL first met , she introduced herself as "MAXWELL". called her "MAXWELL". recalled the packages coming from New York because the FedEx package said "New York" on it. received calls from what she assumed was EPSTEIN's house. assumed the New York numbers she received calls from were cell numbers. knew EPSTEIN had property in New York. The cards she received never specifically said her age on them. felt they were trying to ship her off. would casually mention to EPSTEIN her birthday was coming up and get cards from him. The senders of the gifts from New York were EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, or -; it had their names on it. received gifts randomly and sometimes for her birthday. In had her son and went to EPSTEIN's home approximately one to times afterwards. felt uncomfortable being the age she was. EPSTEIN told her, "You should stay at home and be a mom now." There were comments about her age. felt it was hinted at when she was asked if she had younger friends. described her ending with EPSTEIN as being a "mutual cutoff". wanted to focus on being a mom. 3505-068 Pagc 7 of 9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005836 EFTA00157964 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD—NY-3027571 cominuationorm.302 or (U) Interview of .0„ 07/17/2020 .fts, 8 of 9 When was asked who asked her about bringing younger friends, she replied, "EPSTEIN and MAXWELL". MAXWELL talked with her about it one time. It was always casual conversation and they laughed it off. For every person brought she received extra money. received $300. wrote down a list of girls she brought and referred to it in this interview when providing names. brought , and EPSTEIN told that was too fat. EPSTEIN did not like INCUBUS. MAXWELL called and told her EPSTEIN had concert tickets and wanted to see if was interested in the tickets. recalled going with to the South Florida Fairgrounds because that was where the concert was held. was waiting around and had called EPSTEIN because she did not know who she was looking for to receive the tickets from. then received text messages from someone she did not know and was approached by women after waiting approximately 45 minutes. These women gave her the tickets to INCUBUS. When was asked if she remembered being contacted by investigators, she replied that a lot of people had called her, including people from England. Every so often, changed her phone number. believed that she had received a call from investigators back during the original investigation. her house recently. remembered the FBI coming to When was asked if she followed the news, she replied "no". and her husband tried to watch the Netflix documentary about EPSTEIN, and started throwing up and crying in the first few minutes, so they turned it off. husband continued to watch it without her and told her was on it. did not believe him. watched a small portion to see and hear how she got away from EPSTEIN to know she was ok. refuses to watch documentaries about it. knew EPSTEIN was arrested and had heard he died. does not listen to other people's stories and experiences. was involved in a civil lawsuit and gave a deposition. was not sure when she gave the deposition but recalled it was "back then". 3505-068 Pagc8of9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005837 EFTA00157965 FD•302a (Re". 5.840) SOD-NY-3027571 c omitujelion or FD.392 or (U) Interview of 07 .Oa /17/2020 .pne 9 of 9 did not talk to EPSTEIN after leaving. did not recall phone numbers. still talks with her mother every once in a while. mother has the same phone number she did when they called her house. mother's phone number is . Other numbers that were called to get a hold of were number, and her cell number. During the course of this interview, not all subject matter was discussed. 3505-068 Pagc 9 of 9 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00005838 EFTA00157966