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FD•302 (Rev S•&10) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 637 -_ of 8- FEDERALBURRADOFINVEHUGKHON amorerniry 04/17/20,1 date of birth (DOB) was interviewed pursuant to a proffer agreement via video conference. Present for the interview was attorney , along with Assistant United States Attorneys , Special Agent , and Detective IIII . After being advised of the identity of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: was managed by -; was assistant. was a "runner" who ran errands. and worked out of GHISLAINE MAXWELL's home. When was first hired by JEFFREY EPSTEIN, she was given more informal tasks while she was modeling. One of her first tasks was to go to MAXWELL's house, where MAXWELL gave her a list of items, like toiletries to pick up for the 301 66th Street address. was EPSTEIN's assistant. saw working with MAXWELL as well. Some relationships were more formal and "office like", but and MAXWELL's relationship was more friendly. Tasks that MAXWELL gave to were errands like buying shampoo and shirts for her and wanting to clean the office. In New York, the office inside MAXWELL's house was small with three desks. shared a desk with MAXWELL. MAXWELL spent time at EPSTEIN's other residents. recalled the strange message she received from JEAN LUC BRUNEL. English was not great at the time. MAXWELL thought the message was funny. MAXWELL either assisted or directed in how to write the message. had always felt a bit intimidated by MAXWELL. MAXWELL's attitude came across that she was better than everyone else. was uncomfortable around MAXWELL and limited her time around her. 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In EPSTEIN's master bedroom, he had two bathrooms where the one to the left was where the massages took place, and the other room had a large closet where saw MAXWELL's clothes hanging. recalled that in New Mexico MAXWELL had a bedroom. thought it may have been who mentioned MAXWELL's bedroom because she was assigning bedrooms. recalled had stayed in MAXWELL's bedroom in New Mexico. At every one of EPSTEIN's properties, MAXWELL acted almost like an owner; people treated her like an owner. spent approximately 15-20% of the time around MAXWELL. While in Palm Beach, home was in proximity so she would get time off; she would not always be around EPSTEIN's house. was mostly there at the Palm Beach residence. recalled traveling with MAXWELL approximately 15-20% of the time. recalled traveling to New Mexico with MAXWELL twice. recalled traveling to Aspen with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. and EPSTEIN went to see LES WEXNER. recalled MAXWELL being there with a group of women and chewing them out. recalled when a new house manager, JANUSZ BANASIAK, started in Palm Beach and brought in fresh flowers, MAXWELL was impressed. remembered a time where MAXWELL questioned her on the ice in the water she was taking to EPSTEIN, asking if the ice was made from Evian. While in Palm Beach, EPSTEIN received two massages a day. If traveled with EPSTEIN, sometimes would call from New York to set up the massages. sometimes send the initial schedule and would call. EPSTEIN then wanted to confirm and reconfirm with them; she would have to call in the evening and then the next morning. job was to reconfirm with them. would did not recall MAXWELL confirming massages. ALFREDO RODRIGUEZ may have confirmed massages. When was asked if she was aware of MAXWELL's knowledge of EPSTEIN 3524-013 Page 2 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00009400 EFTA00159381 FD402a (Rev 54.10) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 637 50D-NY-3027571 Continuahon ofFD-302 of (0) Proffer of on 05/14/2021 p 3 of 8 getting massages, she replied yes. In general, it was common knowledge EPSTEIN had two massages a day. talked about a time in New Mexico where EPSTEIN treated them to an outside location spa facility. MAXWELL told they needed to find a pretty masseuse for EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN sent MAXWELL, and possibly to a spa facility where each of them were to be treated to a massage. MAXWELL said the masseuse for EPSTEIN must be pretty and must be good at massage. MAXWELL said this to the group. The phone books were contact address books. The pastel colored books were EPSTEIN's books while the black small books were MAXWELL's books. There was a section for massage contacts in them. EPSTEIN noted once that when he and MAXWELL dated that MAXWELL would bring more girls for threesomes, saying they were sexual relationships. did not recall when or where EPSTEIN said this to her. EPSTEIN told that MAXWELL brought him girls. As of the date of this interview, impression was that this was for sexual activities. It surprised that MAXWELL would bring other girls in for sex. When EPSTEIN told this she did not think that was something MAXWELL would do. recalled MAXWELL dating other men. described MAXWELL as "high end and sophisticated" and did not think "those types" of people would do that. EPSTEIN's expectations were when he had girlfriends they would have to bring other girls in. When dated EPSTEIN they brought in for sex and she told that she had to find other girls for EPSTEIN. When was asked about what she said in a prior interview about MAXWELL participating in threesomes, replied that she was talking about what she just referenced in regards to EPSTEIN telling that MAXWELL participated in threesomes. At the time worked for EPSTEIN from 2004-2006 she did not get a sense that he and MAXWELL were still in a romantic relationship. thought they were in a relationship years prior to working for them. took a lot of photographs, some of them of described them as "model type" photographs possibly for Victoria's Secret. was in jeans and a tank top on the island along the beach. 3524-013 Page 3 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00009401 EFTA00159382 FD40104+.5440 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 637 50D-NY-3027571 ContimmthmofFAUCa (01 Proffer of 05/14/2021 pag, 4 of 8 asked her to take off her top and bra, telling that EPSTEIN said it was ok. These types of photographs of other girls were on display all over EPSTEIN's houses. These photographs were kept in large binders at MAXWELL's house. They were in thumbnail form with Compact Disk's (CD) attached. There was a large commercial printer at MAXWELL's New York house where the thumbnails were printed; thought this was possibly why the binders were kept there. described the binders as large with packets and the photographs were burned onto CDs. There were contact sheets with thumbnails, so they knew which photographs were on which CD. These binders were stored in a large cabinet located past the three desks in MAXWELL's office in her New York home. , and worked there. There were approximately 8-10 binders of photographs. There were other photographs as well. described a time in Palm Beach where she was on the couch with IIII and stripped, took off her top, and danced. EPSTEIN nudged to get the camera to take photographs. Either or put together the binders. Everything was at the request of EPSTEIN. enjoyed taking photographs; she had a nice camera. MAXWELL asked them to clean the office once. felt MAXWELL must have observed the printer and binders were there. They were intimate photographs so they would not have been printed commercially. The intimate photographs were of different women in binders that were mainly topless with modal like poses. Some photographs were in EPSTEIN's gym along the whole wall - they were all topless photographs. described the photographs as women with an unknown age range. When asked if the age range was 18-20 years old, replied that the women were maybe younger but it was hard to tell because of make-up and the model style photographs. did not recall if MAXWELL took nude photographs. was not sure if anyone other than took photographs. At the time stopped working for them, the binders were still at MAXWELL's house. MAXWELL sold the New York house at one point and thought the real estate agent had possibly taken photographs of MAXWELL'S office. had In regards to the storage of contact information, would get the phone numbers for made her own contact list that she typed up. printed a few copies and put them in a desk. When came back to New York, these were sometimes missing. The notebooks had massage sections, but never called from there. 3524-013 Page 4 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00009402 EFTA00159383 FIT.302a (Rev 54.10) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 637 SOD-NY-3027571 Continuahon of FD-302 of (U) Proffer of 0, 05/14/2021 pist 5 of 8 only called people from the contact information given to her by and the contact list had made from contacts given to her by gave phone numbers. was not sure where got the information from. contact list was created by hand then typed up in a word document in Palm Beach. typed up and printed a few and stored them in a drawer. recalled the list was missing one time or had thrown it out because it was crumpled in the trash can. was at a computer in Palm Beach at a desk near the living room that she and used for work. created a digital copy for herself. was not sure if anyone else had a digital contact list for massages. thought the contact books for massages seemed outdated. (Agent note: was shown a document titled "Masseusses". This document is attached in a 1A.) did not recognize this document. did not format her document how this one was formatted; underlined the names. thought there were approximately 10 names on the document she created but thought there may have been more than one person on each line like having referrals listed. described there being message books around the house that had a page that copied itself, notepads, and contact numbers and information. Some of these were kept in the pantry behind the kitchen. There were white notepads throughout EPSTEIN's home that had "Jeffrey Epstein" and "Ghislaine Maxwell" written on them. Messages were kept on these notepads. Phone numbers were kept in a system they used called Citrix. People's numbers were also kept in books. MAXWELL had books with a black cover throughout the house and EPSTEIN had books with a colorful cover throughout the house. There were multiple copies of the books throughout the house. believed that both sets of books had contact information for massages. The contact information for massages was organized by location. remembered skimming through the books and seeing this. MAXWELL's black books were very simple as they were just black and white with simple font. believed EPSTEIN's colorful books were black and white inside and simple as well, but the font was slightly larger. advised she may be able to recognize the books if she saw them; she has a photographic memory. [Agent note: At this point in the interview, was shown a document.] recalled this document to be one of MAXWELL's contact 3524-013 Page 5 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00009403 EFTA00159384 FIT.302a (Rev 54.10) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 637 50D -NY -3027571 ContinualionofFD-302 of (U) Proffer of On 05/14/2021 par 6 of 8 books. also recalled that the font for EPSTEIN would have been larger. The contact books were printed and not updated. was given a project to update EPSTEIN's books; she used the Citrix system to gather the numbers from in order to update the books. did not recall being asked to update MAXWELL'S contact books. During the time that worked for EPSTEIN she did not recall anyone switching the books out. When was asked if she recalled someone asking her to gather items from the Palm Beach house, she stated yes. and EPSTEIN told her to go to Palm Beach to meet someone to hand over the contact books and computers. EPSTEIN, ) and flew into Miami. was told to stay with while EPSTEIN and had a meeting. thought the meeting was held at what is now called the SOHO HOUSE HOTEL. thought EPSTEIN was involved in the construction of the hotel. recalled telling her to meet a gentleman and may have called before she met him. recalled the conversation she had with EPSTEIN was where he told her that something happened to his detriment and she needed to gather the stuff from the house. thought she was meeting with a police officer or investigator. to the island. When arrived at the Palm Beach house, JANUSZ was there and he helped her gather items. gathered the contact books. recalled definitely gathering EPSTEIN's books, but she could not recall if she grabbed all of MAXWELL's books. thought she gave both sets to the gentleman. When the gentleman left, JANUSZ called and said that he found a book, so called the gentleman back to hand it over. recalled the gentleman to be thought this was around October 6, because it was the day before her birthday. also recalled stopping at a gas station and found a record of the stop on her bank statement. had anxiety and stress while working for EPSTEIN. drove to Palm Beach, while and EPSTEIN flew on recalled telling her to do the same thing on the island. told to remove the contact books from the island and take them to New York. thought she may have asked where all the books were stored because there were so many buildings. This was possibly a couple weeks after had already removed the books and computers from Palm Beach. 3524-013 Page6of8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00009404 EFTA00159385 FIT.302a (Rev 54.10) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 637 50D-NY-3027571 Continuahon of FD-302 of (U) Proffer of 0, 05/14/2021 p,s, 7 of 8 In Palm Beach, each desk had a computer. removed the computer from EPSTEIN's office (the cabana by the pool), along with the computer that she and used and the computer from MAXWELL's office. There was a stationary computer that security used that did not remove from the house. removed the books from the island and took them to New York. When returned to New York, she gave the books to thought left the office with the books. This was around the time that had been given the assignment to update the books. asked what to do with the printouts of the contact numbers. told to shred it. did not recall why told her to shred it. just recalled EPSTEIN mentioning that something was stolen or compromised. remembered EPSTEIN referring to visas and immigration. did not remember if she discussed this with anyone afterwards. recalled an individual named MARK who was the IT person they would call if they had computer issues. did not know if MARK worked for WEXNER. thought MARK may have knowledge about the database they used. recalled MAXWELL being somewhat intimately involved in EPSTEIN's life. MAXWELL was "very much present". MAXWELL had two assistants and she was "Sort of like a boss". MAXWELL was one of EPSTEIN's friends and ex- girlfriends. EPSTEIN kept certain people around his life, including MAXWELL and EVA DUBIN, who was an ex-girlfriend. was also very close to EPSTEIN. thought and MAXWELL were close as MAXWELL took to some events. recalled that EPSTEIN bought a nice fur for Christmas and it was to be kept at MAXWELL's home. MAXWELL was in every detail. MAXWELL questioned the staff in New York. When MAXWELL visited EPSTEIN's different homes, she seemed more like an owner. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL were close. recalled EPSTEIN telling her that he delivered the news of MAXWELL's father's death to her. MAXWELL had drivers and staff who thought she was not nice. recalled a couple that worked for EPSTEIN and saw the woman crying when she came in because MAXWELL said something mean to her. MAXWELL seemed like EPSTEIN's person. recalled that there was a couch on display at a store and the store did not want to sell it. EPSTEIN said to have MAXWELL deal with it. 3524-013 Page7a13 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00009405 EFTA00159386 FIT.302a (Rev 54.10) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 637 50D-NY-3027571 ContinualionofFD-302 of (U) Proffer of On 05/14/2021 p,s, 8 of 8 There was a masseuse in Palm Beach, , who stayed at the New York apartment. EPSTEIN helped get an internship with a teenage magazine. MAXWELL was in charge of managing the apartment. recalled that when left the apartment, there was something missing from the apartment and MAXWELL said that must have took it. (Agent note: At this point in the interview was shown a document. This document is attached in a IA.] recognized the document as being a printed copy from the Citrix database. was not sure which of the books this would have come from. This would have been managed by believed MAXWELL would have had knowledge of the massages. MAXWELL managed EPSTEIN's houses and was very much present. Any person that was in the houses would have knowledge of EPSTEIN's schedule and massages. People spoke freely; someone may have said that EPSTEIN was getting a massage. People walked through the kitchen and sometimes there was a girl with another girl there. One girl went upstairs while another stayed in the kitchen. recalled there was a chiropractor at the house and gave an appointment to a girl that was there. did not know what MAXWELL got out of staying with EPSTEIN. To it seemed that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL shared assets. recalled a time where EPSTEIN bought a new helicopter and became upset because it was shaking. He blamed it on MAXWELL. MAXWELL seemed like family to EPSTEIN. EVA was also like family MAXWELL and EPSTEIN seemed to have a family like relationship. 3524-013 Page 8 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00009406 EFTA00159387