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be NO Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO Ke} a oO he be No (ee) = Hs Oo _ OY a ~] a oO a Ke} 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 499-2 Filed 11/23/21 Page 17 of 15916 LBAAMAX1ps Rocchio — Direct techniques to arrive at the -- my professional opinion. Q. What if any licenses do you have? A. I'm Licensed to practice psychology currently in the states of Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and New York. Q. In your career, for approximately how many years -- THE COURT: Sorry. May I ask, Dr. Rocchio, that point you made about not taking what someone says at distinguish that as part of your THE W TNESS: T ma COURT: THE W TNESS: have to deal with what the patients tell me in not my job to go out and verit Yes. In my clinical And what about in your clinical face value, you forensic practice? practice? practice, fy any part of fF wha it's not -- the room. It's t's being told in the clinical room, but, rather, to hear what they're telling me and then relate that back to my other skills-training xperience, the scientific literature. Someone, for example, might report to me symptoms of depression. could ask them how that's manifesting in their life, but I don't go to their house to see if they're actually staying in bed all day. That kind of thing. THE COURT: BY MS. POMERANTZ: Q. Dr. Rocchio, in your career, Thank you. years have you treated and assessed patients? A. 30, SOUTHERN D STR CT REPORT ERS, (212) 805-0300 PG for approximately how many maybe slightly more than 30 years at this point. DOJ-OGR-00007885