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Subject: RE: Voluntary Production of Materials - three ideas
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:17:13 +0000
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We should probably talk about this as well.
From: Paul Catcall
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Voluntary Production of Materials - three ideas
Dear
Thanks for getting back to us. We're happy to let you find a convenient time to work through these issues with
Brad and I obviously continue to believe that everything we are asking for is appropriate. But to simplify things
for now, here are three quick areas where we think the Government could produce things that would be helpful
to us without burdening the Government. In advancing these three, we are obviously not conceding away other
requests or limiting us in any way on other pending requests:
(1) Can you at least agree to turn over to us the e-mails from Epstein's lawyers regarding the non-prosecution
agreement? We have received the Government's half of the communications but not Epstein's for a number
of the emails. (Epstein improperly withheld some of the e-mails without telling us, such as e-mails from
Lillian Sanchez.) So turning over what Epstein said certainly can't be regarded as privileged. And the e-
mails regarding the NPA are clearly within the scope of discovery that Judge Marra envisioned. So please just
give us the e-mails regarding the NPA.
(2)
Also, can you at least agree to make your initial disclosures under Rule 26 of the Federal Rules of Criminal
Procedure. At various points in the litigation, the Government seems to have regarded Rule 26 as controlling
and then later not controlling. But without conceding whether it controls or not, can't you at least agree to
make the normal disclosures that the Government makes in any civil litigation?
(3) Can you agree to turn over to us any information that Bruce Reinhart was aware of the Government's efforts
in the Epstein case. That would be useful to us in proving conflict of interest issues.
Thanks in advance for any voluntary help you can extend. Of course, in producing things, you would not be
waiving any right to object to other production. And, of course, we are not waiving any right to seek other
production.
Paul Cassell
Co-Counsel for Jane Doe #1 and Jane Doe #2
Paul G. Cassell
Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law
S.J. Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah
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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:06 PM
To: Paul Cassell
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Subject: RE: Voluntary Production of Materials?
Paul:
Sorry it has taken us so long to get back to you.
You and Brad are certainly correct that, notwithstanding our motion to stay discovery, we wish to cooperate to
facilitate any discovery that may be required in this matter.
As our filings make clear, we do not believe that any discovery is legally appropriate in this case due to the
jurisdictional issues we have raised. It is also our position that your clients' discovery requests are objectionable
for a variety of reasons, including because they seek information protected by a variety of privileges, which
include the attorney-client privilege and the deliberative process privilege, because they are overly broad and
unduly burdensome, and because they are beyond the scope of the discovery contemplated by the court's order
Nonetheless, we remain willing to work with you and Brad to identify and reach an accommodation concerning
certain non-privileged items that might be producible by the government at this time notwithstanding the
government's motion to stay. In order to accomplish this, however, we would need some narrowing of your
discovery requests that would identify those items that we could then evaluate for early voluntary production.
That narrowing might perhaps be achieved through a joint cooperative discussion. Potentially, we might even
reach accommodation on some items through joint stipulations. Let me make clear that by asking you to narrow
your discovery requests, we are not requiring you to abandon any of your pending discovery requests — although
it is our hope that cooperative discussion might resolve, or even eliminate the need for, some of those requests;
rather, we are simply trying to jointly define a subset of those requests so that we could evaluate them for early
voluntary production.
Unfortunately, my knowledge of the materials that might be responsive to the discovery requests is extremely
limited, and
will thus need to be part of any discussions aimed at an early voluntary
production. Can we set up a meeting to work through these matters after
has concluded his impending
trial and
has concluded her § 2255 evidentiary hearing?
Thanks,
From: Paul Cassell [
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:31 PM
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Subject: RE: voluntary Production of Materials?
Dear El
As mentioned last week, Brad and I wanted to chat with you about where we are on discovery in this
case. I spoke with Brad, and while our recollection of what you promised you were going to do may be
slightly different than ours, we believe there was at least a general agreement to the spirit of the
voluntary production — that is, you were going to cooperate to the extent that you are able.
As we explained on our phone call, we requested the things that we would like produced. While you
may believe those requests to be overly broad and may assert that legal objection in your responses, you
indicated that you would be willing to produce certain documents that may not be all the documents in
your possession responsive to the request but that would amount to some documents or materials that
we do not yet have. Without making us go through the unnecessary exercise of narrowing our requests,
it would be most helpful if you would just shoot us over whatever documents or materials that you are
willing to share with us voluntarily. We will agree that whatever production you make does not constitute
a waiver of any legal objection you may have to any discovery request.
So, are you willing to produce anything to us is, I guess, the bottom line. Thanks for any voluntary help
you can extend.
Paul Cassell
Co-Counsel for Jane Doe #1 and Jane Doe tt2
Paul G. Cassell
Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law
S.J. Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah
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Sent: Frida, Januar 06 2012 07:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Replies and Responses Due on January 6, 2012
Hi
1.
Thanks for the clarification on the 90 day rule.
2.
Brad and I need to confer about the discovery issues, but that is not a basis for our withholding
consent for an extension. So you may indicate that we consent to the extension. Brad and I have a
different recollection about discovery issues than you do. But let's chat about that next week.
Sorry to hear y'all are working at 7 PM on Friday night. Paul
Paul G. Cassell
Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law
Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah
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Hi, Paul.
As always, we appreciate your efforts to be accommodating. With respect to the conditions that you have
placed on your agreement to the requested extension:
(1) No 90-day notice is called for by Local Rule 7.1(b)(4) for the motions/responses/replies
connected to the requested extension because none is a "motion or other matter which has been
pending and fully briefed" and none is a "motion or other matter as to which the Court has
conducted a hearing." In any event, after the recent amendments to the Local Rules, the 90-day
notices are only "serve[d] on all parties and any affected non-parties." Court filing of the 90-day
notices is no longer contemplated by the Local Rules.
(2) As to our discussion in early December, we have a different recollection. At that time,
notwithstanding our motion to stay discovery, we expressed a willingness to work with you and
Brad to attempt to identify items that might be producible by the government pursuant to a
narrowed and specific request for production that seeks relevant items and where the production
by the government would not be burdensome or otherwise objectionable. We remain willing to
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work toward such a goal, but have been waiting to hear from you or Brad to begin the process of
identifying the items that would be the subject of such a narrowed request. In fact, ailed
Brad several weeks ago to discuss the requests for admissions, but they were unable to connect
at that time.
If the government's position on these two points causes you to withhold your agreement to our
requested extension, we would be happy to inform the Court that you oppose our motion for extension
of time. If we do not hear from you by 7:00 pm Miami time that you agree to the requested extension
notwithstanding the government's position on these two points, we will report to the Court that you
object to the extension. Please be sure to send any reply concerning your position to
as he will be
filing the motion for extension this evening.
Thanks, and have a nice weekend.
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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 10:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Replies and Responses Due on January 6, 2012
Hey
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As you know, we're happy to try and be accommodating. We would be glad to consent to
additional time, but would ask in exchange for two things:
1.
The various delays mean that several motions have now been (or will shortly be) pending for
more than 90 days, triggering a 90 day report obligation under the local rules. We would
trust you would be willing to file that with Judge Marra.
2. When we finished our telephone call with you some weeks back, Brad and I understood that
we would be receiving (a) some initial discovery in the case and (b) a list of additional
discovery that we could expect if your motion to dismiss is denied. But we have yet to
receive anything at all regarding discovery. We would trust that you will carry through on
what we understood you had agreed to in the telephone call.
Again, we are happy to help - but would ask you to help us on these two points. Thanks!
Paul Cassell
Co-counsel for Jane Doe tt1 and Jane Doe #2
Paul G. Cassell
Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law
S.J. Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah
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Subject: Replies and Responses Due on January 6, 2012
Paul and Brad,
Happy New Year. I need to ask if you have an objection to the government seeking a second
enlargement of time, up to Tuesday, January 24, 2012, to file replies to the victims' two responses
to the government's motion to dismiss and motion to stay discovery, and responses to the
victims' protective motion to compel and protective motion for remedies.
is preparing for an evidentiary hearing in a 28 U.S.C. 2255 motion, which is scheduled for
January 24, 2012. I am scheduled to go to trial in a tort case sometime during the two week trial
period commencing January 17, 2012. I have spent most of the preceding two weeks getting
ready for the trial. My colleague
with sporadic assistance frorrM and I, will be
preparing the responses and replies.
Please let me know if you have any objections. Thanks.
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