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1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR COPY TESTIMONY OF SPECIAL AGENT E. Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, May 22, 2007 APPEARANCES: Assistant United States Attorney oreperson Exhibit 29 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224077 2 ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, May 22, 2007. Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224078 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION BY MS. Q Good afternoon, Special Agent. A Good afternoon. Q Could you remind the grand jury of your name and with whom you are employed? A It's I'm a special agent with the FBI here in West Palm Beach and I work violent crimes. Q Are you the case agent on Operation Leap A Yes, I am. Q Okay. Before we get back to our review of the draft proposed indictment, I know that a question was raised regarding whether the grand jury transcripts are being made available to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224079 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 counsel for the defense, are they? A No. Q And is Mr. Epstein considered a high flight risk by the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's Office? A Yes, he is. Q So is the status of the investigation in terms of when an indictment might be returned considered highly confidential? A Yes. Q And are there any personal relationships between any members of the U.S. Attorney's Office and counsel for Mr. Epstein? A Yes. Q And is that one of the reasons why we have decided to use, In Re: Abbott, when referring to this case? A Yes. Q Okay. Now we had left off just prior to the beginning of the discussion of Jane Doe Number Five. Could you tell the grand jury a little bit about Jane Doe Number Five? A Jane Doe Number Five is date of birth is We have phone activity that began with when she was 17 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224080 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 years old beginning in November of 2004, going through to almost April, I guess, to the end of March 2005. We have contact, telephone contact between and with approximately 70 phone calls in that time period as well as approximately seven phone calls with regarding the setting up of appointments to provide massages to Mr. Epstein. Q Now did explain how she was first introduced to Mr. Epstein? A Yes, she did. . was the one that approached also attends High School as well as our other first four girls on the board, the Jane Does up there. told her that she would need to wear something sexy, that she would be providing Mr. Epstein with a massage and that she would receive $200, and if she was asked she should tell Mr. Epstein that she was 18. On the first massage that went to Mr. Epstein's house, she removed her shirt at his request and she performed the massage. She was paid $300 for that massage. OFFICIAL IREPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224081 6 f 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 During that massage, she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18 years of age. He asked her age. They also discussed many things that was interested in. They talked about his ranch. They talked about horses. They actually also talked about cars. At one point later on, Mr. Epstein let's her drive a brand new Lexus, test drive a brand new Lexus. So those were some of her interests and Mr. Epstein talked to her about that. told us that the massages became more sexual in nature and she stated that she did more than ten massages, but that she couldn't quite put a number on how many massages she provided to Mr. Epstein, but it was definitely more than ten. She was not when she was interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department, she did tell them that it was more around five or six massages. She stated that she minimized to the detectives when they came to interview her. They came to her house and her dad was due home any time and what was foremost on her mind was my dad is going to be here any minute. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224082 7 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 She cooperated. She told them what had happened, but she minimized it more in an effort that she just wanted them to leave before her parents got home. At this point, her parents were not aware of what took place. As the massages became more sexual in nature, she describes that the first sexual massage he always instructed her on what to do, and on the first massage he had asked her to remove her clothing. She was down to her underwear at this point. He asked her He at that point reached through her legs and masturbated. On another occasion, she was completely nude and she did several of the massages in the nude for Mr. Epstein. In this particular massage, she stated that Mr. Epstein She pulled away and he said that he wanted to touch her and that he also wanted to OFFICIAL rFPoRTTNG SFRV CE, LLC EFTA00224083 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 taste her. He stopped at that time, but then before the massage was over, he digitally penetrated her again. He had used a back massager on her on at least two occasions. She did not like that and she told him that and he responded something to the effect: What are you scared to have pleasure? And she told him she didn't like it. On the second to the last massage that gave Mr. Epstein, she was giving him a massage and he took her into the bedroom and asked her to get fully unclothed. He actually took a phone call and told her that she should get undressed and lay on the bed completely naked. He just wanted to look at her. He took his phone call. After the phone call was over, he ended up vaginally penetrating Felicia as well as performing oral sex on a. She said that she felt very dirty after that massage or after that time and she had decided that the next massage would be her last massage, that she did not want to go back. During the last massage she gave, she kept looking at the clock. Mr. Epstein commented OFFICIAL RF.PCRTTNO. SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224084 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and noticed that she was looking at the clock and she made reference to that her boyfriend was waiting and Mr. Epstein said that, you know, she was ruining his massage and that if she didn't want to be here she should leave. She told him at this time this would be her last massage. She was paid anywhere from $300 to $600 during the time that she worked for Mr. Epstein. It was who took her upstairs that first time or took her upstairs and set up the massage table. She was given some gifts by Mr. Epstein as well. She received bra and pantie sets from him, Victoria Secret bra and pantie sets. She also received a book of poetry from Mr. Epstein. She was Western Unioned a wire of $200 Milk as a Christmas bonus to from Mr. Epstein. Q How did I=. get to and from Mr. Epstein's home? A She had a vehicle that she would drive if she didn't ride with one of the other girls. If she was grounded and could not get to Mr. Epstein's house, he would send a car for her. There was a local taxi service and she stated that on several occasions it was a Lincoln OFFICIAL REPORTTNn sppvicE, LLC EFTA00224085 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Town Car that was sent and there was an individual by the name of Dennis that she got to know pretty well on the drives to and from Mr. Epstein's house, but that even when she didn't have transportation on those particular times, that a car was sent for her to bring her to Mr. Epstein's house. Q Is there anything else that you wanted to tell the grand jury about A That's it. Q All right. If I could direct you to the proposed draft indictment, draft proposed indictment, and ask you to look at the Overt Acts that involve Jane Doe Number Five and Specifically Overt Acts 53, 58, 61 , 65, 69, 74, 81 , 91 , 98, 107, and 1 1 1 Can you explain to the grand jury what the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? A We have reviewed phone records that indicates that there was telephonic contact between and on those dates as IME well as statements that arranging the appointments. Q All right. And if I can refer you to Overt Act Number 72, which states on or about was OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224086 1 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 December 23, 2004, Defendant Epstein caused a Western Union wire transfer order to be sent to Jane Doe Number Five. What evidence do you have to support that? A We have IME statements and we also have the Western Union receipt showing that she received that amount of money. Q And those were in response to a subpoena issued on behalf of this grand jury? A Yes. Q If I could direct you to Overt Act What is the Number 82 involving basis for that Overt Act? A Again, a review of the phone records from and telephone indicate that they had contact at that time. Q And Overt Act Number 88 states that on or about January 26, 2005, Defendant reviewed a telephone message from Jane Doe Number Five. What is the basis for that allegation? A We have reviewed the message pads that were recovered during the execution of the state search warrant and recovered a message that left for confirming an appointment OFFICIAL RRPORTTNC: RFRVTCE, LLC EFTA00224087 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 that I have a copy of that if you want me to read that to you. Q Sure. A It's a message for dated January 26th, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from a and it says, in parentheses, you know the number, and it says she is confirming 5:30 p.m. Q All right. And then with respect to Overt Acts Numbers 108 and 1 15 related to 10 in what is the evidence supporting those Overt 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Acts? A Again, a review of the phone records of and MIS We show that there was telephonic contact on those dates. Q And then if I could refer you to substantive offense Count Number Nine, which is the enticement charge. Can you just remind the grand jury of the evidence supporting that allegation? A On or about those dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone between and Those telephones were used to set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. As we OFFICIAL nn PTTmo eFPVTCE, LLC EFTA00224088 13 1 discussed earlier during the massage the sexual 2 activity that took place, the straddling of him by 3 where he began to masturbate between 4 his -- between her legs, excuse me, while she 5 6 7 He digitally penetrated her, as we 8 talked about. 9 and he had sexual 10 intercourse with as well as performed oral 1 1 sex on 12 He paid anywhere from $300 to illillil 13 $600. He provided her with gifts, a poetry book, 14 a Secret underwear. It was 15 who had set up the room with the massage table and 16 set out the oils. 17 And then, of course, we did discuss the 18 private car that was sent to her when she wasn't 19 available to drive herself. He did pay a -- I 20 didn't mention this earlier -- he paid a truck 21 payment for her when she was short on money. So 22 that was another thing that Mr. Epstein provided 23 to and she was 17 during all of this 24 activity. 25 Q All right. And if I could refer you to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224089 14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Count Number 53, which is the sex trafficking offense. Is the information that you just summarized the same information that supports that count? A Yes. The only thing I wanted to tell you regarding her age, she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18 on the first visit. A couple of visits later they discussed her birthday. They were talking about her birthday and her plans for her birthday and Mr. Epstein asked her -- said something to the effect like: You are going to be 18? And she said yes. And he said: So you are not 18? She laughed and said no and they kind of laughed and they continued on with the massage. So Mr. Epstein was aware through that conversation that had not yet turned 18. Q All right. Are there any questions regarding before we continue? All right. Let's turn now to Jane Doe Number Six. THE WITNESS: Did we do the count, the traveling count? No, we are not going to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224090 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 do those today. THE WITNESS: Okay. Q And if you could tell us Jane Doe Number Six's first name and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Six is She also attended High School and her date of birth is Q How did Jane Doe Number Six come to be introduced to Mr. Epstein? A . also contacted -- or told about providing massages to Mr. Epstein. She told -- which I'm going to refer to her ase That's what she goes by, but her name is That he wanted cute girls to give him massages and that he would pay $200. We had have contact starting with in July of 2000 between and that phone contact continues until September 2005. Between this time period, we have over 200 -- approximately 225 calls between and During first massage, brought over there and was paid $200 by Mr. Epstein. She left. performed the first OFFICIAL PPDriATTMr CIPLIU CE, LLC EFTA00224091 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 massage topless. He asked her to take her skirt and her shirt off. She said no at first and later in the massage, the way puts it, is that he talked her into it and she removed her shirt, which she was not wearing a bra at the time. Mr. Epstein fondled her breasts. He asked her to remove her panties and she said no. He masturbated and as soon as he ejaculated, the massage was over. She was paid $200 for that. She, at that point, she did start working for Epstein on a regular basis. She indicated that she had been there hundreds of times over this time period. She told us -- and I'm going to read a quote to you that she said to me or said to not to me but to law enforcement -- she said -- and this is referring to after the first time that she went there. She said I first told him that I had a problem with it, what happened the first time, but $200 for 45 minutes that was a lot for a 16-year -old girl making six bucks an hour. Now that was a statement she made to law enforcement. Going through her phone records and OFFICIAL RFPORTTNn gFRVICE, LLC EFTA00224092 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 during her interview with law enforcement, she goes back and forth on whether she is 16 or 17. It's now over a year since she started working -- a year and a half since she started working for Mr. Epstein and going back and trying to retrace her age, she did say that, but we believe at that time she was 17 due to the phone contact. So we are not sure when that first massage started, but the phone contact with began in July of '04 when she would have been 17. Q And just to be clear, during that interview with law enforcement, did Alex have access to her phone records? A No. Q And the interviewing officer also didn't have access to those records, correct? A No. Q So she was just saying she couldn't remember if she was 16 or 17 at the time? A Right. As I said, she became kind of a regular. He increased her pay to $300 to $400 as long as he could touch her. She stated that the massages OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224093 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 would progress over time and at first she would not take off her panties, then she did. She performed the massages naked. He would rub vagina. He also digitally penetrated He performed oral sex one He would masturbate while rubbing himself on breasts. Later in the times that was performing the massages, he requested become sexually involved with that she Mr. Epstein asked to perform oral sex on and refused and Mr. Epstein told her that if she was to perform oral sex on for five minutes, he would give her another $200. So she did. and engaged in sexual activity less than five times. Mr. Epstein would also partake in that sexual activity as well. On one occasion with all three of them, as we had mentioned earlier in a grand jury session, the massage was over and _was standing up near the massage table and Mr. Epstein penetrated vagina. I think she described it as that he went OFFICIAL RRIDMRTTNG SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224094 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 inside her four or five times with his penis and And when he first digitally penetrated her on the first time, she, you know, asked him why he was doing that. He said: Oh, I thought we had done this before. And later he continues to digitally penetrate her. On this occasion, she said: What are you doing? Q So at the time that that occurred, she still had a rule with him, but the rule was that he would not penetrate her vagina with his penis? A Right. And Mr. Epstein gave we'll talk about several gifts. One of the gifts that Mr. Epstein gave was a 2005 Dodge Neon. It only had seven miles on it. believes that that car was bought for her. We have reason to believe it was most likely rented and we are determining that right now, but he gave her this. It only had seven miles and she gave OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224095 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that back to him before she got out of high school. And she said, and this is her quote: It got too sticky for me. He wanted more than I was willing to give. She stated that Epstein requested her to have sex with him multiple times and also wanted him to -- wanted her to perform oral sex on him and she refused to do that, and Mr. Epstein knew that that was not going to happen. And, again, that's one of the reasons why she ended up giving back the car because it just was getting a little bit, as she referred to, sticky for her. After that occasion, where he did penetrate her vagina, he paid her $1 ,000 after that. Some of the gifts that she received other than the car, she describes that as La Secret underwear and a bra and pantie set she received. She received Christmas bonuses, movie tickets, VIP show tickets. She went to the David Copperfield show. She met with him. She went to the after party. She received a Louis Vuitton bag. was in a play at her high school OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224096 21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and Mr. Epstein sent her a dozen roses -- or two dozen roses, I believe, to her high school, had them delivered to her high school while she was performing at this play. He also for her 18th birthday, he flew her to New York for her 18th birthday, and she was flown up there on her birthday and that was done because Mr. Epstein didn't want to have to deal with the parental consent needed to fly somebody under the age of 18 to New York. So on her 18th birthday with his funding, she flew to New York. She received show tickets to the Phantom of the Opera. Epstein was not present in New York at this time. He was called away and was not there. So she does have friends in New York and she stayed with those friends and attended the show that Mr. Epstein had purchased those tickets for. The other thing about is she said that she would get paid every time she would go over there and she said she feels like she went over there hundreds of times. She said that sometimes he would just have her naked watching TV or reading a book. He would sometimes just ask her to lay with him OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224097 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 naked. She was still always paid and he would invite her over for breakfast. He would invite her to dinner and sometimes just to use the pool, but that she was always paid for coming over there. Q Let me ask about a couple of other things. You mentioned the specific conversation about she could only fly up on her 18th birthday so that he wouldn't have to get parental consent for her flight? A Yes. Q And you mentioned the delivery of the roses to the high school. In addition to those, were other events that occurred that should have led Mr. Epstein or probably did lead Mr. Epstein to know that she was under the age of 18? A Yes. One of the things that told me is that she believed she stayed with him so long because she believed that he was going to help her get into New York University, NYU. She provided him on multiple occasions paperwork. One being her transcript. Trying to, you know, do what she could to keep her grades up, do what she could in the hopes that Mr. Epstein with his influence residing in New York was going OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224098 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to be able to get her into NYU. That again is one of the reasons why she stayed because she felt that if she held on for so long hoping that this dream would come true. She is currently attending Florida State University and doing very well. Q Do we have any other documentation of receiving payments from someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? A We have Janusz Banasiak. It was a house manager for Mr. Epstein and we were able to get his petty cash receipts and in there is a payment that he paid out of his funds to I'll' Q Now was ever shown any photo lineup? A Yes, she was. Q And was she able to identify any of the defendants? A She identified Q And was that the photo array that was shown to her? A Yes, it was. Q Was -- are counsel for the defendants aware of allegations against Mr. Epstein? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224099 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q And have they attempted to discredit her? A Yes. Q And is one of the bases for their attempt to discredit her the fact that she didn't appear before the State Grand Jury? A Yes. Q Are you aware of whether or not Alex was ever subpoenaed to appear before the State Grand Jury? A There was a subpoena issued to her. I'm not sure if she received that. Either she received it the day before or she didn't receive it at all and I would need to check my notes and she is up in Tallahassee, mind you. So she was either served the day before that grand jury convened or she never received it and I would need to check with probably the detective for sure on that. Q Okay. Let's talk about the allegations related to Jane Doe Number Six in the proposed indictment. If I could refer you to Overt Acts Numbers 21 , 26, 34, 38, 49, 51 , 52, 55, 62, 68, and 73. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224100 25 1 2 3 If you could tell the grand jury what the evidence is that supports those allegations? A Review of those phone records on those 4 dates indicate that there was telephonic contact 5 between and as well as 6 statements that she was called by prior to 7 and while Mr. Epstein was in town. 8 Q All right. And if I could refer you to 9 Overt Act Number 57, which states on or about 10 December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a 11 written message to Defendant Epstein regarding 12 Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. 13 Could you tell the grand jury about 14 that? 15 A We have reviewed message pads that, 16 again, were obtained in the execution of a state 17 search warrant that indicates that left a 18 message for Mr. Epstein regarding and 19 who is Jane Doe Number Seven, and I have 20 that here. If I can read it to you? 21 Q Sure. 22 For Jeffrey, dated 12-4-2004. The time 23 is 2:55 p.m. It's from would like 24 to work at 4 p.m. if possible. In parentheses, 25 is scheduled for 5:00 today. The movie is at OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224101 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 7:30. Q Okay. And if I could refer you to Count Number Ten, and if you could summarize for the grand jury -- first, if you could refer to the dates contained in that count, on July 15th, 2004, until December 29th, 2004, what was the significance of those dates? A This would be the time period that is still under the age of 18. Q That she was receiving phone calls from someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? A Yes. Q Okay. And then if you could just summarize the remainder of the evidence according to that count? A Okay. On or about those dates a facility of interstate specifically and commerce was used, the telephone, specificallyM telephones were utilized to 20 set up and arrange appointments for Mr Epstein. 21 During the massages, Epstein fondled 22 breasts. Epstein used the back massager 23 and vibrator directly on vagina. Epstein 24 performed oral sex on and Epstein penetrated 25 vagina with his penis. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224102 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein introduced into the sexual activity with . and engaged in sexual activity while Epstein watched and masturbated. Epstein asked to perform oral sex on and when she refused he offered her $200 for five minutes. complied. There were different sex toys used on including a strap-on dildo that i used. Epstein paid $200 up to $1 ,000 depending on the sexual activity that took place. had taken upstairs. She set up for the massage. Epstein paid for a trip to New York for her 18th birthday, gave her Phantom of the Opera tickets. He rented or provided a car to He delivered roses to her high school, gave her a Louis Vuitton bag, gave her a Victoria Secret bra and pantie set. He also provided her with a bathing suit on a return trip he had to Brazil. He told her that he was going to help her get into New York University. She believed that was the case. She provided him with her high school transcript and she was 17 at the time. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224103 28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And with respect to Count Number 54, is that the same evidence that supports that count? A Yes, it does. Q Okay. Before we go on, I know that you mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were introduced to Mr. Epstein by Is another Jane Doe who will be discussed at a later time? A Yes. Any questions about Jane Doe Number Six? Yes. A GRAND JUROR: I don't know if I'm allowed to ask this, and you don't have to answer it, but how did the parents do they ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton purse? I mean, how do they not know anything like a car? Q Did you -- have you interviewed parents? A GRAND JUROR: My question is that I OFFICIAL prpnpmtmn 0.-VPV cE, LLC EFTA00224104 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 noticed you are skipping all the travel. Is that something that you are going to discuss? In the future. As I mentioned before, there's -- that question is pending and I want to get a definitive answer before we go through that. A GRAND JUROR: I must have missed that. A GRAND JUROR: I don't see a Count 54 on this. A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the next page. A GRAND JUROR: Okay. I'm sorry. Thank you. THE WITNESS: Just to answer a question. The Palm Beach Police Department -- did tell the Palm Beach Police Department that her mother believed that she worked there, and I would need to go back and check, but I believe that she worked there as a -- I want to say like an assistant or answered the phones or something like that. And at one point, her mother thought there might have been more going on and actually did end going over there for a time period, but then she did resume later. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224105 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. Any other questions? Q And we will turn to Jane Doe Number Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Seven is and her date of birth is Q How did come to go to Mr. Epstein's house? A worked at the mall, and that through working at the mall, and Or Jane Doe Number Six told that she could make extra money by providing a massage to Mr. Epstein. told her that she may have to be naked for this massage, but if she didn't want to she didn't have to. We have the contact, the telephonic contact between beginning in July 2004 and through November of 2005. There is approximately 100 calls between and there is around OFFICIAL BPDORTTNC SRRVTCE, LLC EFTA00224106 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 seven calls, approximately seven calls to eight calls between and in between and and approximately stated that she times to Mr. Epstein's house. went about 15 is the first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to High School and does not attend High School. On first massage, took upstairs for the first massage and set up the room. Epstein instructed to leave the room. During the massage, Epstein asked to remove her clothing. She removed only her shirt. described Epstein as being -- she described him as a respective guy, who would converse with her. She said that they discussed different life issues such as where wanted to attend college in the future. He also gave her advice. She didn't have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with her parents. She performed this massage and she was paid $200 for the massage. told us that as the massages OFFICIAL P vs> pmrmn crpirrcE, LLC EFTA00224107 32 1 2 3 4 continued, they more sexual. further with By would Epstein then progress would try massage, and to go further become and had the third 5 completely removed all of her clothing. She was 6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein 7 would fondle breasts. 8 He rubbed her vagina. He did not 9 penetrate -- did not digitally penetrate her, 10 She 1 1 would tell him no on occasions and she would also 12 take his hand and remove his hand from places that 13 she did not want him to touch. 14 Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly 15 on vagina while he continued to 16 masturbate during these massages. On at least two 17 occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's 18 direction, assisted in giving the 19 massage. 20 And on -- the first time tells 21 us that was setting up the room and she 22 remained in the room and started to undress. 23 was surprised. 24 She was never asked or told this was 25 going to happen. This is just kind of the way it OFFICIAL rFPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224108 33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 went. and both massage Mr. Epstein. and Epstein began performing sexual acts in front of Epstein used a massager on vagina in front of as well as they both performed oral sex in front of on each other. also touched breasts. She touched her -- touched vagina. She took hand and placed it on her vagina and pulled it back, pulled It away. IIIIII did use the massager directly on vagina. Some of the gifts that received, she did receive also a bathing suit, which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip. She received four tickets for her 18th birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and , they wired money to In June of 2005, on senior trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to Cancun, Mexico. She ran out of money and they sent her -- wired her, western Unioned her $350, and then she took a trip in July of '05 to San Diego, California, and she also received $200 by OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224109 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Western Union. BY Q All right. Anything you want to ask before we go to the Overt Acts? No. All right. Q If I could refer you first to Overt Act Number 23, which says on July 16th, 2004, Defendant caused Jane Doe Number Six to make one or more telephone calls to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number Seven. Could you explain what the evidence is supporting that? A Yes. A review of phone records from phone and indicated they had telephonic contact at that time. Q And that was following a telephone contact between Six? and Jane Doe Number A Yes, it was. Q All right. And is that consistent with what Jane Doe Number Seven told you about how she was recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? A Yes. Q Now with respect to Overt Acts 27, 32, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224110 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 39, 41 , 44, 45, 66, 75, 85, 89, and 90, what is the evidence related to those Overt Acts? A Can we skip 89? Q Oh, yes. Let's skip 89. A A review of the phone records indicate that there was telephonic contact between and on those specific dates as well as the statements of that would call her in advance or call her while Mr. Epstein was in town. Q All right. And those records show that the phone calls originated with telephone? A Yes. Q Now if I could direct you to Overt Act Number 57, which says on December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a written message to Defendant Epstein regarding Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. Is that the phone message that you mentioned earlier today? A Yes, it is. Q Now we skipped Overt Act Number 89, and can you tell the grand jury what the evidence is related to Overt Act Number 89? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224111 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A That would be a review of the phone records from as well as a review of the phone records from that there was telephonic contact on that day. Q From IIIIIIII to telephone? A Yes. Q And then Overt Act Number 92, can you tell us what the evidence is related to that? A That is on that day a review of their phone records of phone records and indicates that there was telephonic contact between the two of them on that date. Q Now if I could refer you to Count Number 11 , and if you could summarize for the grand jury what the evidence is related to that count? A On or about these dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone, between and These phones were utilized to set up and arrange massage appointments for Mr. Epstein. During the massages, Epstein asked to remove her clothing. Starting with the third massage, was completely nude and Epstein touched OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224112 37 1 breasts. He stroked her vagina. He used a back 2 massager on vagina. He masturbated 3 during the massages. 4 On at least two occasions Epstein 5 involved into the sexual 6 activity. stroked vagina and used 7 the massager on vagina. 8 also placed hand on her 9 vagina, which pulled back. Epstein paid 10 $200 on each these occasions. Epstein 11 also provided her with a bathing suit, four 12 tickets to see David Copperfield on her 18th 13 birthday, provided those tickets for her 18th 14 birthday. 15 Epstein andlIIIIIIWestern Unioned 16 on at least two occasions and Epstein 17 provided advice dealing with her bad with 18 credit, with her parents, and her plans for going 19 to college, and was 17 when all this 20 activity took place. 21 Q Okay. So the dates that appear in Count 22 1 1 run through the day before her 18th birthday, 23 correct? 24 A Yes, they do. 25 Now with respect to Count Number 55, is OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224113 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that the same evidence that relates to the sex trafficking charge? A Yes. Q Okay. And the date ranges between up until she turns 18? A Yes, it is. Q All right. Any questions about Jane Doe Number Seven? All right. We'll go on to Jane Doe Number Eight. Q And if you could tell the grand jury Jane Doe's first name and her date of birth? was born Jane Doe Number Eight is She attended High School and she had been to Mr. Epstein's house approximately 15 times. Q And who first introduced Epstein? A , Jane Doe Number Six. Q And tell us how that contact began. A told 1millthat she could make $200 if she provided Mr. Epstein with a massage. She told her that she would have to take off her clothes, but that she could keep her underwear on. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224114 39 L 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on the first massage, we have -- I guess should tell you, we have phone contact between and starting February 25, 2005, and that phone contact continues through October of 2005. We have over 50 calls between and and we have approximately 25 calls between ands On that first massage, brought massage table. left the room. and set up the Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein entered wearing only a towel. massaged Mr. Epstein's leg and back. Mr. Epstein masturdated during this massage. I should tell you that told us that -- told law enforcement, that he has the girls take off their clothes, and in this massage she did remove her clothing down to her underwear. She kept her underwear on. He would touch her breasts and he would also grab her buttock while he was masturbating. The massages became more sexual. Mr. Epstein used OFFICIAL. REPORTTNn SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224115 40 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 On one of the times that she was completely nude, Mr. Epstein had cracked back before and she -- Epstein told to lay down and that he was going to crack her back like he had done before. When she laid down, Mr. Epstein illilli performed sexual intercourse on He gave her an extra 100, $150. She had made $200 up to this point, so it would be 300, $350 that Mr. Epstein paid her. On another occasion, was brought illIlk into the massage. and Mr. Epstein engaged in sexual acts while would continue to IIIIIII massage Mr. Epstein. Epstein did ask and ato kiss and he watched as they touched each other. I guess, touched I should say touched breasts and continued to touch Mr. Epstein as well as this all went on. As far as the gifts that Mr. Epstein provided to , he gave her a photography book IIMI as well as a digital camera. told us that actually gave her the camera, but it was per OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224116 41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein's instructions. She was 17 at the time all this activity occurred. Q And what did say about Mr. Epstein's knowledge of her age? A She told Mr. Epstein how old she was. She told him that she was 17. Q Now was interviewed shortly after the activity ended, correct? A Yes. Q Do you remember the approximate date when Mr. Epstein left Palm Beach County and has returned only for court appearances? A I believe it was October 6th. It was the beginning of October was the last time we have him -- or when he left the area. Q And was interviewed by the police shortly after that time? A Yes, she was interviewed on November 8. Q And during that interview, did she explain when the last time was when she had seen Mr. Epstein? A She had said shortly before her birthday. Q And she said it was actually the first week in October? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224117 42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Now was later called to appear before the State Grand Jury? A Yes. Q And during that testimony, did she did she confuse the last day that she saw Mr. Epstein? A Yes. She stated -- and this was done I believe in July of '06, so this would have been over a year and some months. She did state that the last time she saw Mr. Epstein was the day before her birthday and that is when the sexual intercourse took place. Q Okay. So she thought it was the day before her birthday, but based on her earlier statement and the records that we have, we know it was a few days before her birthday? A The first week of October. Q Okay. Let's -- actually, before we go to the Overt Acts, do you mind if I ask the agent a question outside? I think I caught another error. Excuse us for a moment. and the witness exit the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224118 43 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Grand Jury Room.) Grand Jury Room.) and the witness enter the There is a discrepancy in Overt Act Number 138. The chart that I provided to you says -- has the name the relevant defendant and in the indictment So we are trying to confirm who the right caller was. A GRAND JUROR: Can I ask a question? Sure. A GRAND JUROR: You had said that he had not been in Florida? Uh-huh. A GRAND JUROR: How do they know that he has not come into Florida? Okay. We can address that withaed the agent. A GRAND JUROR: Could I ask a question? Sure. A GRAND JUROR: Is there any way that he might have been filming this? Does anybody know about it, I mean, you know? Okay. We will answer those after we finish going through these OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224119 44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 items. A GRAND JUROR: I knew there was a reason you were hauling all those records back and forth. A GRAND JUROR: After the case is over, how long do you actually have to keep all that? This is all on the record. A GRAND JUROR: Yeah. It's curiosity. Okay. All right. BY Q So from your review of the phone records, Special Agent Overt Act Number 138 relates to A Yes. Q Okay All right. Now let's run through Overt Acts 110, 128, 133, 136, 138, 139, 141 , 142, 145, 152, 154, and 156. Could you let the grand jury know what the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? A A review of the phone records indicate on those dates there was telephonic contact IIIIIIIIIIIII between the and as well as statements that called her OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224120 45 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 and in advance as to when Mr. Epstein was in town 2 to set up appointments. 3 Q And if you could look at Overt Acts 124, 4 146, and 149. 5 A A review of phone records between and indicates there was telephonic phone contact on those dates. Q Phone calls originating with ending with A Yes. Q And Overt Act Number 147? A Overt Act 147, a review of the phone records indicate that there was telephonic contact between and on that date as well. Q And then Overt Act Number 150, says that on September 8, 2005, Defendant received a telephone call from Jane Doe Number Eight, and what is the evidence related to that? A The evidence on that date is that a review Q of those phone records indicates that contacted So with respect to that one, the phone call originated with as opposed to being win OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224121 46 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 A Yes. 2 Q Okay. Now if you could turn to Count 3 Number 12 and summarize for the grand jury the evidence supporting that charge of the enticement of a minor? A On or about these dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone, specifically and phones were utilized to set and arrange massages, massage appointments for Mr. Epstein. During the massages, Epstein would ask to remove her clothing. She would perform the massages either in her underwear or completely Milli nude. Epstein masturbated while performed these massages. Epstein used a massager on a vagina with her panties on and with them off. Epstein had intercourse with He ejaculated outside her vagina. On one occasion, Epstein brought into the sexual activity, introduced into the sexual activity. They performed sex acts on each other, that being and Jeffrey Epstein, in front of OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224122 47 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and she continued to massage Mr. Epstein. At Mr. Epstein's request, and did kiss as well as touched breasts. Epstein paid 200 to 300 to $350 to and that depended on the sexual activity. Epstein gave a book on photography as well as a digital camera provided to her by as well as bra and underwear sets, told Mr. Epstein that she was 17 years of age. Q All right. And is that the same evidence with respect to Count Number 56? A Yes, it is. Q Okay. Before we go to those other two questions that were posed, are there any questions that relates to Jane Doe Number Eight? Yes, sir. A GRAND JUROR: Is there any explanation from any of the girls about the number of calls versus the number of times they say they went there? I'm sorry. Say it one more time. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224123 48 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY A GRAND JUROR: The number of times they went to visit versus the number of phone calls. There seems to be a big difference. THE WITNESS: Yes. There's a lot of phone calls and we have phone calls showing up prior to his arrival and during his arrival and some of the phone calls are lengthy and some of them are, you know, seconds. So either maybe they didn't get through. We are looking at a cell phone bill and getting those totals from looking at the cell phone bill and the calls just vary in time length and, you know, the only explanation I guess, you know, would be -- and that's just me giving you my opinion -- is that, you know, either they didn't reach each other, so they would continue to call back and forth. There was a lot of calls between these teenage girls or these adolescent girls as well as the phone activity between and and with the girls. Q All right. And also Special Agent I know that you testified about this OFFICIAL xr•pnPPTHn gTORV cE, LLC EFTA00224124 49 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 earlier in terms of the tendency of victims of this type of offense to minimize the number of visits, for example, minimize the conduct that they engaged in? A That is true as well. Q So it is possible that the girls went more than five times or ten times? A Yes. I mean, it's difficult to try to get them to tell you an exact number and that's why we have approximated, and, again, they have minimized either with local law enforcement and now when we go back either through time or just being able to -- you know, the approach, they have been able to tell us a little more of what took place. Again, stated she went hundreds of times. Can we put her down to a number? Two hundred and twenty-five phone calls. You know, we just know that she went a lot of times. You can look at the phone activity of seeing the phone calls that are made prior to his arrival and during his arrival to try to gage when they were there. All right. Any other questions related to Jane Doe Number Eight? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224125 50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Okay. BY Q Then we have two questions that were raised earlier. One of which was whether there is any evidence to suggest that Mr. Epstein filmed any of these encounters? A We don't have any evidence at this time. Some of girls were asked that question but there's no evidence to show that he did or indicate that he did. Q All right. And then the second one was we had talked earlier about Mr. Epstein leaving Florida and not returning. What evidence do you have regarding where Mr. Epstein has been since October of 2005? A He has -- and I may have misspoke if I said he has not ever come back. He has come back because of the state charges he has faced. He has had to come into Palm Beach County for that. We do not believe that he has been here other than that since the investigation broke in October of '05, other than having to appear before the state charges. We know where Mr. Epstein resides and we have a partner, ICE, Immigration and Customs OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224126 51 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Enforcement, who can -- is helping us monitor his plane activity, and, although, we were not privy to all of his domestic flights when he comes in and out of the country, we are alerted to that. Q And you mentioned earlier that you interviewed Janusz Banasiak, correct? A Yes. Q Who currently serves in what position of Mr. Epstein? A He is currently the house manager for Mr. Epstein and maintains the property over in Palm Beach. Q And what did he tell you about Mr. Epstein? A He also said that Mr. Epstein has not been back. Q Okay. Any other questions? All right. You guys get a break next. All right. We will see you -- I will be out of town next week and I will probably see you the week after that. (Witness was excused.) OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224127 52 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 . 25 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I, Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT , taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. PAULA L A- ANGET CCI, CSR #4869 Certified Cou t Reporter OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00224128