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=51 -ortemEktt EFTA00259696 1 2 E: 3 4 5 Today's date is March 30, 2005. The time now, by my watch, is approximately 6 3:35. I'm present with at And we're 7 placing a telephone call to 8 ■: and the number is 9 Okay, 10 (Dialing number) 11 UNK: Hello? 12 Is there? 13 UNK: No, she's at work. Who's this? 14 15 UNK: 16 17 UNK: no she's at work, honey. She's working a double today. She has her cell 18 phone if you want to call her on that. 19 Yeah. 20 UNK: 21 Thank you. 22 UNK: Your welcome, honey. 23 Bye. Page 1 of 5 EFTA00259697 1 UNK: Bye. 2 (Dialing number) 3 ■ Hello? 4 Hey. 5 Yeah. 6 This is 7 Hey. 8 Yeah. You called me on Sunday but I was..(inaudible) 9 Uh, yeah, urn, I don't know...well, I'm at work right now, what are you doing? 10 I'm at home. 11 You live with your dad still? 12 .: No. 13 What happened, cause I heard so many rumors, about like Jeffery and how you 14 were going to press charges and get me arrested and everything? 15 ■: No. 16 Yeah... 17 .: That's totally not true. You know, like me and my dad got in a fight cause I got in 18 a fight with this girl at school because she was saying "you know that 19 girl? 20 ■: Yeah. 21 U. ...(inaudible) she was going around school saying that (inaudible) (Inaudible) 22 (inaudible) and I got into a fight with her because she told everybody in school all 23 this stuff. And I guess supposedly when I talked to was like "oh Page 2 of 5 EFTA00259698 1 yeah, since you broke up with me and everything all this stuff (inaudible) and 2 then I guess, told her friend and her and her friend told the school. So 3 my dad, and I got into a fight with that girl and my dad kicked me out. 4 Now I'm living with my mom. (Inaudible) 5 M: You live with your mom now? 6 U. Yeah. 7 .. Oh, so they don't even know about Jeffery then, do they? 8 M. No. They just think I got into a fight at school and I got suspended. 9 M: Oh, yeah, cause supposedly your dad found out about Jeffrey and everything. 10 M. No. He thinks the reason I got into a fight was because the girl pushed me. 11 (Inaudible) 12 ■: They don't know anything about Jeffrey then. 13 III: No. No way. I'd get in trouble if (inaudible) 14 ■: I don't know. 15 .: ..and then (inaudible) talk a lot of crap and everything. 16 ■: Yeah. Alright, well Jeffrey needs someone to work. I don't know if you want to 17 work or not. 18 M. Yeah. 19 . I mean, he needs someone tomorrow. 20 M. Okay. 21 M: What time are you available? 22 U. Four. 23 E. Four? Alright, well I'm gonna call him and if I don't call you back tonight, I'll call Page 3 of 5 EFTA00259699 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 U N: N: N: s : you...is this your cell phone? Yeah. Alright, I'll call you on this later tonight. Yeah. I have a question. Okay. I don't know if you want to, cause I remember last time how like, you said something about bringing my sister or whatever? Yeah. I talked to her about and she's like, yeah so I don't know if you want her come or if you get something extra or whatever, like, I can bring her this time. Okay. I'll let him know. Well like....okay. Alright? Well, what time are you going to call my phone? Cause I don't have it on all the time, I have, I'll have it like around like 3 or 4... Tomorrow? Yeah. Alright. Well, I'll call you tomorrow then. Alright. Around 3 or 4? I'm sorry? You have to call between 3 and 4 cause I'm in school and I don't take the phone, my phone. Yeah, that's fine. I'll call you between 3 and 4. Page 4 of 5 EFTA00259700 • I e I 1 .* Alrighty. 2 Alright. 3 M. Okay. 4 Bye. 5 (Hung up phone) 6 E: This concludes. The time now of the conversation, approximately 3:40pm. Page 5 of 5 EFTA00259701 1 Detective 2 3 4 I.D. M. Offense number . Today's date is March 18, 2005. Today's 5 time, by my watch, is approximately 12:54. Present is 6 Reference to a control call to 7 (Dialing number) 8 UNK: Hello? 9 Is there? 10 UNK: No, she's working. She won't be home til later. 11 Okay. Thanks. 12 UNK: Okay. 13 M. Bye. She won't be home until later. She's working. 14 (Dialing number) 15 UNK: Hello? 16 Hello again. I'm sorry. Do you know what time will get back? 17 UNK: I don't know cause I'm not sure if she's working a double or not. But she might 18 be back between 3 and 4. 19 Okay. Thank you. 20 UNK: Alright. 21 ■: I.D. continuing the control call to Time now by my watch is 4:21 on 22 the 18th. Present is 23 (Dialing number) Page 1 of 4 EFTA00259702 1 UNK: Hello. 2 Is home? 3 UNK: No she's not, she's working. Who's this? 4 5 UNK: 6 Yes ma'am. 7 UNK: No she's working at, wherever she works. I forget the name, Olive Garden. 8 Do you know what time she'll be home? 9 UNK: She's working a double, so she'll probably be home at around 9, 9:30, she said. 10 Okay. Do you have a cell phone number I could reach her at? 11 UNK: She has her cell phone on tonight but you can call just call her up at the 12 Olive Garden. 13 Okay. 14 UNK: (inaudible) Town Center at Wellington. The Mall. 15 Okay. Thanks. 16 UNK: Your welcome. 17 Bye. 18 She works at the Olive Garden and she will be there and won't be home til 9 19 because she's working a double. 20 Placing a telephone call to the Olive Garden Restaurant located 21 Time now by my watch is 22 approximately 4:29. 23 (Dialing number) Page 2 of 4 EFTA00259703 1 UNK: Thank you for calling MMI0live Garden. This is.. May I help you? 2 5: Can I speak with 3 UNK: Yeah, one second. 4 ■: Hello? 5 Hey its me 6 Who? 8 Oh, hi. 9 Hi. Yeah, I have a question cause like I need some money.... 10 • Yeah. 11 I was wondering if you could take me back to Jeff's house. 12 I don't know. The last time I did that, urn, I heard that your dad wanted to press 13 charges and stuff. 14 5: No. I don't even live with my dad anymore. 15 ■: Oh, well I don't know, it was going around that you were going to press charges 16 and get me in trouble and shit. 17 I'm definitely not. 18 Okay, well.... 19 That's why I'm not there, because my school thought that too. 20 Okay, this is what I'll do. I'll call Jeffrey tonight and I'll give you a call back 21 tomorrow. 22 5: Okay. 23 Okay? Page 3 of 4 EFTA00259704 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 Urn, yeah, but don't, I don't go to my regular school so I'm gonna be home all week. Okay. Okay. Okay, I'll definitely give you a call tomorrow. Well, my mom, well I don't have my cell phone. Like, I just stole it back, not working out. I don't know. Can I call you back tomorrow or something? Um, alright. Hold on. Give me a number I can get a hold of you. Alright. , that's my house number. Yes. Okay. I'll give you a call tomorrow. Okay. Bye. Bye. She said (inaudible) End of the call now by my time is 4.... same time, approximately 4:26. That was an error on my behalf of the approximate time of starting. Page 4 of 4 EFTA00259705 1 2 3 Detective 4 5 I.D. M, reference case number . The time now, by my watch, is 6 approximately 6 minutes past 2pm on 3/15/05. (Inaudible) 7 8 UNK: Just 9 E: Okay, the 10 please? 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 U: U: a U: U • U: • Spell your name please? And your date of birth? And you are? Family Therapist. Could you spell your name please? . Present also is...could you state your name And you're her family therapist? Am I correct? Yes. Okay. I'm here today, and I have stated briefly why I'm here is in 23 reference to an incident that happened to a friend of yours, or a girl you know. Page 1 of 43 EFTA00259706 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 I'm not sure if she's friend of yours or not, by the name of Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Okay. I hear your voice got very low all of a sudden so if you don't mind.. Oh, okay. I'll even hold it. Okay. Can you tell nie how you know She's my ex-boyfriend's cousin. And what's your ex-boyfriend's name? Is that his last name? Yes. What school does he go to? (inaudible) And you said he's your ex-boyfriend. How long ago was that? I don't know. Like two months, two months and a half ago. How long did you go out with him? Three weeks...? Not long? And You met her through Yeah, I met her when I went to dinner at his grandmother's house. Okay. And do you knows last name? No. I don't. Do you know where she lives? Yes. She lives on III 4 streets away from me. Page 2 of 43 EFTA00259707 1 •: Okay. 2 (inaudible) 3 Okay. And tell me now what happened with 4 Okay, well, the third time of hanging out with cause I was a cousin, well, 5 . And we were over there watching a movie and this guy called or actually it 6 was a woman but it was for a guy. And she's talking to and then she said 7 that, well I don't know exactly what the woman said but she said do you have 8 anybody left with you and said yes and then she said are you bringing 9 them to the guy's house? In Gardens or wherever he lives. And she said I don't 10 know. I'll call you back. And then she told that I was gonna come with her 11 to this guy's house so that, so that, she was gonna get paid, like I don't know 12 how much money but this man's been paying money. And that she was gonna 13 bring me along and then was like no, you're not taking her and then she's 14 like well, I'll ask her and then she just told me, she didn't tell me what's she's 15 gonna do, she told me she's going to some old guy's house and (inaudible) get 16 my shoes and go shopping. So I was like, okay. And then we went, I don't know 17 what day it was cause she picked me up. I'm pretty sure it was a Saturday or a 18 Sunday. So she picked me up and we get in the car and she (inaudible) and 19 then we left and we were still driving and then we went to his house and we were 20 waiting in the kitchen and the old man came and he's like, hello, don't 21 even know, I think it's Jeff. I'm Jeff and then we, I'm like I'm And then 22 she um went upstairs and I guess gave him money and we went back downstairs 23 we weren't there, we were only there for like 30 minutes and then we left and Page 3 of 43 EFTA00259708 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 • • U E: E: then she went to go to Marshall's to go get some, a skirt and a purse but she didn't get the skirt. She only ended up getting the purse and that was like a black purse. That's all that happened? Urn hm. Well, I'm hearing a lot more happened. Like what, I know, like what went around the school? Like what went around the school. Tell me what happened at school. In school, everybody was saying that I got paid $300 with the, for the old man. That old guy. Cause he's....oh, first of all, is that by the old man, then it was the old man and then it was I'm just a prostitute and I got paid $300. Who was spreading these rumors around? Urn, my, this girl, she used to be my friend-but I guess.... Where would she get .... From because I broke up with him. Well, that's what I think. I think when I broke up with him, he got very mad and told the girl cause this girl, she hated me because I went out him and she likes him. Which girl was this? Liked ? Yeah. ...went out with him so she started spreading these rumors? Page 4 of 43 EFTA00259709 1 Cause I went out to the fair and she was supposed to go with him but, I guess, 2 he didn't like her and then we started talking and she got mad because I was 3 talking to him. 4 What does...can you tell me more about 5 E. I don't really know that much. All I know is that she, the only thing I know about 6 her is that her boyfriend, but then they broke up, like, she met him at a party. 7 That's the only thing I know and that she has brown hair and like, I don't really 8 know about her. I went to her house (inaudible) 9 •: Are you telling me?...and I want you to know something, okay? 10 Um hm. 11 Regardless of what has happened, okay? I'm being very honest. You're not in 12 trouble for anything. 13 I know. 14 U. Whether you did something with this man or not. 15 16 U: Whether you did something with this man. What I'm trying to do is find out if this 17 type of thing is going on and you're not the only one and I don't think you are the 18 only one. 19 I don't think so either cause the other kid i (inaudible) he knows too 20 and I, cause he's telling me, he's like where do you know and then I was 21 like she's my boyfriend's cousin. Oh that girl's bad and I'm like okay, too bad. 22 N: Did you do anything with this man? 23 No, we went upstairs and just got money and I don't know... Page 5 of 43 EFTA00259710 1 ■: What did you do when you went upstairs? 2 . I don't, it was me in the kitchen, she went upstairs with the, for like five minutes. 3 •: Who went upstairs? 4 . The old guy, I think his name's, I'm pretty sure his name's Jeff and and the 5 woman. I don't know, I think it's his assistant. (Inaudible) 6 • Okay, do you remember what her name was? 7 . I have no idea what her name was. 8 . Can you describe her to me? 9 M. Blonde, tall, taller than me. 10 M. How tall are you? 11 M I have no idea. 5 something. 12 ill Okay. And they didn't talk about anything in front of you? 13 IMI: No. They just, I introduced myself and I was like...he goes hi, I'm Jeff. And I 14 was like hi, I'm and then they just were like okay, you can come with us 15 and then they walked upstairs through like a kitchen and then like a little doorway 16 and the stairs going up and all I could see was like a picture on the wall as you 17 go%up. 18 In Okay, so you're describing it with your hands. So in front of you is a kitchen.... 19 M. Like, the door is here... • 20 E. ...to the right is a door. 21 M. Um hm. And then you walk in, there's like a table, like with a sink right there, like 22 with a big island table. 23 . Urn hm. Page 6 of 43 EFTA00259711 1 And there's like little circle chairs, that you can sit on. 2 Stools. 3 Stools. And we were just sitting there waiting cause he wasn't there yet. Then 4 he came inside after we were standing there about 5 minutes. Cause like, there 5 was a gate and a bodyguard guy. When we opened the gate and knocked on 6 the door, security, some guy, like a bodyguard kind of, type of guy. Same guy 7 walked up and he's like, excuse me, what are you here for and we're here to see 8 Jeff. And then he was okay, well come inside, Jeff II be here in like 5 minutes. 9 And then we waited and he was like you can help yourself to a drink. And then 10 he left and then like 2 minutes after the guy left, Jeff and a lady walked in and 11 they introduced themselves and we're like, hi, my name is and then she's 12 like (inaudible) and then there's like a walk in door thing, that you walk in 13 like a cabinet thing, not a cabinet but the island thing (inaudible) and then the 14 door would be right there. 15 •: Okay. 16 Yeah, (inaudible) 17 U. So they walked away out of your sight? 18 U. Urn hm. Well there was another girl there. I was never by myself. I don't 19 remember the girl's name but she's s friend. 20 Okay. 21 ■: She waM.... 22 U. What does do you have an idea of what, why this woman, this assistant, 23 would ask if had anybody with her? Page 7 of 43 EFTA00259712 1 15* I don't know but what you call, the lady, she really like (inaudible) I don't know 2 what's wrong. I mean when she walked in, she was like kind of like, I don't know, 3 but she was just like, um, she couldn't say anything about her, she was just first 4 name and that's it and then she was just like right to the point. She didn't try to 5 be friendly, you know. 6 5: What do you mean she didn't try to be friendly? 7 She wasn't like hi, I'm like, you know (inaudible) she was just like hi, I'm and I 8 don't remember her name but she said she was from Ohio. I remember that. 9 5: And your friend, or s friend stayed in the car? 10 No, she was with us. When we walked in, and she sat, she was just there, she 11 didn't do anything, she was with me. We were just right at the table, like we 12 were sitting having a conversation for like two seconds. Then came back 13 downstairs and then she's like thanks Jeff and then I'm like bye Jeff and then the 14 other girl was like bye and then we left. 15 5: Okay, did tell you what was going on upstairs? 16 E. No. She just, I didn't ask because like the only reason I know the money 17 was to go shopping. That's what (inaudible). 18 ■: Did she give you any money? 19 Um hm. 20 How much money? 21 $300. 22 What did you do with the $300? 23 ■ I didn't spend it. And then I went to school and then my principal, cause I got Page 8 of 43 EFTA00259713 1 into a fight with a girl, for saying that. Because she said that I was, had 2 done all that with the old man to get that money and that's not true. That's why I 3 got really angry and then we (inaudible) before that and then when I went to the 4 office to (inaudible) the principal but actually she didn't say anything at first and 5 then she was like, told her side of the story, can I see your purse and I 6 was like go ahead and (inaudible) and I'm like yes and then my dad, my dad and 7 the principal and my step-mom, they were all like urn, why did you do that with an 8 old man and who is the old man. I'll kill him, blah, blah, blah. And then I was 9 like I didn't do anything! I didn't do anything! And they didn't believe me. And I 10 kind of got mad at and then the whole thing, that's when I moved back to my 11 mom's house because my dad thought I was a prostitute. And it was really.... 12 .: You know that just because something may have happened, that doesn't make 13 you a prostitute. 14 I know. 15 Do you? 16 Yes. 17 Okay. Do you want something to drink? 18 No. 19 Are you sure? 20 Yeah. 21 You know, I've been doing this for a long time and I'm not saying you're not 22 telling me the truth, I think you're not telling me the whole truth about what 23 happened. Okay? Matter of fact, I know you're not. And I know you might be a Page 9 of 43 I EFTA00259714 1 little afraid looking on it.... 2 Okay, I... (inaudible) because they already came to my dad's house and they did 3 something to my dad's tires and my dad almost died. 4 E: Okay. Give me your hand. I'm here to help you. Look at me. 5 E. I don't want him to get hurt because he already almost killed him. 6 ■: I'm here to help you. 7 Honey, I'm gonna get you some water. Okay? Okay. 9 E: I'm here to help you, okay? I'm being honest, okay? I'm going to be very up 10 front but I need you to be up front with me, okay? 11 Okay. 12 The only way I can help you is if you're honest with me, a hundred percent 13 honest with me. 14 Okay. 15 .: Your counselors not here. Tell me what happened. Now be honest about it. 16 .: Okay. When I got there, that Jeff guy and the lady were there and then the lady 17 wanted me to come upstairs and she's like, she's talking to me and then she was 18 putting out a table like for a massage. And then urn, and then when and then 19 she like put the covers on the table and they like, it comes to like (inaudible) 20 whatever and she's like, oh Jeff will be up in a second. And then the Jeff guy got 21 there, she was like, she was like, and I didn't know what to 22 do because I was the only one up there and scc 23 a and then he came in and had a towel over him and he was like no, Page 10 of 43 EFTA00259715 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 I guess he went into the other room and 11 and then he came back and said to me like, I'm done. And 12 then he's like, here's your money and then I was going downstairs and he acted 13 all nice and stuff, he's like bye, nice to meet you, hope you can come back again 14 and then like how did it go, what did you do. And I'm like, I'm like, he 15 made me and she's like, I know. And then we went 16 to Marshall's and she got a purse and stuff cause she got paid too but I, she 17 didn't do anything, I don't think because she was downstairs the whole time while 18 she knew I was up there. 19 When she asked you to go with her... 20 Urn hm.... 21 ...did you know...here's your water. 22 Thank you. 23 (inaudible) Page 11 of 43 EFTA00259716 1 Okay. Bye. 2 (Inaudible) 3 Urn, you know what (Inaudible), I'm gonna down to the dorm. She knows how to 4 find me. 5 ■ Okay. You feel better without her here? 6 Yeah, because I'm embarrassed cause it's really gross and she.... 7 It is. ...might tell my mom. 9 That's why I'm here. Okay? 10 And I don't want my parents to find out. 11 Well.... 12 Because I told them it wasn't true. 13 Your parents love you. Okay? And their main thing is for you to be healthy. 14 Okay? Not only physically but up here. And they know that right now your have 15 a lot of issues and I think this is one of them. Because like you said, you thought 16 it was gross. Right? 17 U. Cause he's like 45 years old. 18 That's okay. Let's backtrack a bit. When you went with tell me the part 19 where it was the truth. Okay? You were wia and said let's go? 20 .: Yeah. Okay, we were watching, I don't remember the movie, but I know we were 21 watching a movie and then we were gonna go and take a ride. Cause me and 22 were gonna get dropped off at the bowling alley so (inaudible) she I 23 was saying about her boyfriend and got a phone call and then she was Page 12 of 43 EFTA00259717 1 talking to that lady and the lady was like, was actually saying I'm 2 coming, I'm coming, and was like, can I bring somebody? And then 3 was like, the lady was like what does she look like and she started describing me 4 and then turned around and said to who are you talking to. And then 5 went like that and she was talking to the lady and like just describing me, 6 what I was wearing that night and then the lady was like okay, well Jeff is gonna 7 want to talk to you and was like, that's fine. And then she got off the 8 phone and then said, I was like too, why are you describing me, who are 9 you talking to. And she was like do you want to go with me tomorrow, I'm 10 gonna go pick up some money from my boss's house. And then she's like, 11 cause I get paid tomorrow and then I said okay. And Mike no because I 12 guess =mew what she did because said no and he got really mad at 13 me and said no, you're not going, you're not going with her. And then I was like, 14 and she's like, you know, but you just have to come with me and I was like cause 15 the old man's gonna give us both money so we can go shopping. Cause that's 16 like my boss and he's really nice. And I was like okay. And then -didn't say 17 anything the rest of the night about it, he was just like really (inaudible) out there 18 and mad. Not really mad but he was just like frustrated that I guess, 19 would say that. 20 And you didn't know what was really going on. 21 I didn't know it was gonna, that I had to 22 ■ What did you think was going to happen? 23 E. That, like she just said, I don't know but I knew something was wrong, nobody's Page 13 of 43 EFTA00259718 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 just gonna pay you money but I didn't think that I, I thought that was just business whatever do, just gonna go over there. And she told me that it was a rich guy and she was saying oh my God, he's so rich, blah, blah, blah. And he has like a new Mercedes and all this stuff and she's like explaining him. And then, what's it called...so actually we didn't, we left but we didn't end up going to the bowling alley. Her boyfriend went to his house really fast to go get something from his house and then he (inaudible) brought his car back to house and we were just sitting there watching the movie but she was like, are you sure you're going to go with me and I was like okay, I'll go with you. I'm like last time, I'm like, what are we gonna do, we were going to go shopping and we were discussing what we were going to buy with our money, cause she told me how much money I was gonna get, $300. And I was cool, I know what I'm gonna buy. We're just like saying what we were gonna buy with the money. She said I need to go buy a purse and then the next day, actually I gave her my phone number that night so she could call, so she could pick me up. And when I went in the house that morning, she called me, she are you still gonna come with me and I'm like yeah. So she's like okay, get ready. I'm gonna be there in like 30 minutes and then she came to the house in like 30 minutes. And she had a friend with her. Do you remember the name of the friend? I don't know her name but she was like really dark, kind of like a Spanish girl. I don't (inaudible)... Darker than me? Page 14 of 43 EFTA00259719 ■. Um hm. 2 11. Okay. 3 E: And she had like short hair and she had like a styled hair, like a cute little style. I 4 don't remember her name. I talked to her but I didn't remember her name cause 5 (inaudible) right after I got in the car. And then all the way there, we were just 6 listening to music and singing and stuff and like just laughing and stuff. And she 7 told me the girl about her boyfriend and stuff (inaudible). 8 ■: So you're driving. So picks you up. Do you remember what day it was? 9 No but I know it was a Sunday because I told my dad, Dad can I please go on 10 Sunday with to go shopping and my dad goes where are you guys going 11 shopping because he didn't know and he said no at first and I was like 12 Dad, that's you know= cousin and then my dad says okay but I have 13 to meet her. So then called me afterward and then she's like I'm gonna 14 need $10 for gas and she was like can your dad give me $10? And then I was 15 like sure but I didn't ask my dad, I just (inaudible) $10. And then my dad was, 16 okay and my dad called me, he's like (inaudible) I'm not gonna be able to give 17 you money. So then I was really mad but then I didn't tell but my dad 18 ended up (inaudible) (inaudible) when was pulling up, my dad ended up 19 pulling up so and my dad saw each other. And was like, oh my 20 God, your dad is so hot. And then I said yeah, right. Started laughing about it. 21 And then my dad gave $10 for the gas. 22 So you got in the car. What kind of car did she drive? 23 A truck. Page 15 of 43 EFTA00259720 1 E: What color? 2 I don't remember but I think it was a bluish color. I think so. 3 E: So she drove. 4 Yeah, she drove. 5 E- She drove? 6 E. Yeah and I was in the passenger seat and there was like a whole bunch of junk 7 back behind her and I was sitting next to it, like (inaudible) or stuff for school. 8 And was there....like but I don't know but it took a pretty long time to get there. 9 And you know where, like, the rich people are, what is that street? Where the 10 Kravis Center is but further than that. Like towards the beach more. That way. 11 Yeah, towards the beach. 12 1: Yeah. That way. And that's where, yeah, that's like where he lives but when she 13 pulled into, I know for a fact it's a pink house, I remember the pink house and 14 then he had an Escalade in his driveway and then a Mercedes in his garage. I 15 remember that much. 16 Okay. Do you remember... so you took the Kravis way or did you.... 17 U. I don't remember where we... 18 ■ You don't remember which way... 19 0: I just remember the building. 20 ■: It was near the ocean? 21 Yeah. I know....cause one day when I was with my friend that's 22 exactly where we went, like around that area, not the CityPiace area but you 23 know, it kind of looks like that area. Like where the Kravis Center was and I Page 16 of 43 EFTA00259721 1 remember....that's how I remember. 2 Do you remember seeing the beach and the ocean? 3 No but we went over that bridge where the ocean was and then the bridge went 4 over. 5 E: Okay. So you definitely went over the bridge. 6 In• Yeah. Went over a bridge. And it was up and we had wait for it to go down. So 7 we were there for like 5 minutes. 8 That was time you were with 9 Yes. 10 Okay. And then the house, you said, you described it as pink? 11 E. It was like a, it was a two story house and then it was like a pinkish color, pinkish 12 pink color. 13 E: Were there gates or something in front? 14 Well, it wasn't a gate but, the back door had a gate to it and it was a white gate 15 and just like she knew that you had to open it and it wasn't locked so we 16 just opened it and there were three, two or three steps and you just walk up and 17 then he had a pool and it had, like the floor, the floor was like a hard something, 18 it wasn't concrete, it was squares of like concrete, but they were like... 19 E: Like tile, you mean? 20 It was like a coral concrete, you know like.. And then the pool was there and the 21 house was there, I guess it was like a security house because a man that was 22 with the security came out and he was like what are you guys here for, cause 23 you're knocking on the door and then said we're here to see Jeff and Page 17 of 43 EFTA00259722 1 then... 2 What did that man say? 3 He was like oh, okay and she's like, she smiles and then he let her in (inaudible) 4 but he opened the door and then we went in and then (inaudible) and the 5 counter, here's the door when you walk in and there's a (inaudible) refrigerator 6 and then the window, a glass sliding window looks out at the pool. 7 Okay. 8 And then like the cabinet, I mean not the cabinet, the island, was like hem and 9 then there's like a cabinet over there and the door was right here. 10 Okay, just for the tape purposes, the way that you described it, okay? Is you 11 walk in and on the left hand side? 12 Um hm. 13 Cause you motioned right now, who's there? 14 (inaudible) 15 ■: And then when you walked in, on the left hand side, what did you see? 16 . Like if I was getting out of the doorway? 17 Um hm. 18 Okay. Well, there's a door. If you looked straight, it would be straight from you 19 but a little towards the right. 20 ■ Okay. And... 21 It wasn't a door, door. It was just a doorway (inaudible) 22 Okay. 23 No, wait, maybe it, I don't know, cause it was open, but there could have been Page 18 of 43 EFTA00259723 1 door, but it was open so I didn't really pay attention. But I know it was a doorway 2 going up. 3 E. Okay. So now you're in that kitchen area. Right? 4 Um hm. 5 ■: The three of you? 6 Yes. 7 Where did you park the car? 8 In his little driveway area. 9 is So you're in the kitchen area. What happens next? 10 We were waiting there. We were talking, just about how cool the house was. I'm 11 like oh my gosh, I've never been in a house like this. And then the lady and the 12 man came in, Jeff. I'm pretty sure...like 90% positive. And he walked in, he was 13 like in a t-shirt and pants, not pants but you know, like maybe like kind of dressy. 14 And he was like hello, he's like hi and then he said hi to me and then he 15 said hi to the girl. He knew the girl and he knew= But then he said, I don't 16 remember your name but the girl was like, oh, she's like...I know that he didn't 17 remember her but he knew her.. Do you know what I mean? 18 E: Um hm. 19 He didn't remember her name but he knew who she was. And then she's like oh 20 hi, and she's like who are you and I'm like, I'm and then he's like okay, 21 well, then follow my, I don't remember the lady's name but she's, he said follow 22 her (the name) upstairs. So she's like, come on= and then we walked 23 upstairs and I thought Page 19 of 43 EFTA00259724 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 • n : • By yourself? Yes, but I thought that cause she said she was gonna get paid, so I thought IM and the girl was gonna get paid in like, you know, like private, privacy and cause it was just him and her and the other girl in the kitchen. And so I went upstairs and as I was walking upstairs, there was a picture of him in like a different country and then I'm like that's really cool and the lady said isn't it and she was just walking upstairs and there was like a door and then, it was like to a little (inaudible) this big and it had a couch and a couch and it was like another walkway towards that way. And then walked towards, like keep walking forward and then to my right and there was a bedroom and then we turned right again and there was a big bathroom, a big...it was humongous. And the bathroom. It wasn't like a bathroom, bathroom, it was like a sitting area with a shower there. Humongous shower. Like a jillion people could be in that shower. And then it was humongous. And there was like a door here and you opened it and there was like a little desk with paper and pads and stuff. And I don't know (inaudible) like sitting on the couch right here, like against my... there's big long couch. And it was pink and green. Hot pink and green. And there The room or the sofa? The sofa. Okay. And there's a table with a phone on it. And um, during when I was giving him a massage, he made a phone call but I don't remember whether he just said, like he said four words and then hung up. Yeah, I don't remember. And he made a Page 20 of 43 EFTA00259725 1 phone call and then he put the table back where it was (inaudible). And then.... 2 But the lady...so you're upstairs and you're sitting down and the lady's there. 3 What is she doing? 4 Oh, she's, well, there's a closet right here, with a table in it. Like the massage 5 table... 6 Near the sofas? 7 Yes. Like a door on each side and urn, towards the door, there's a door for the 8 table. She took that out and there's like a safe and then like she put it in the 9 middle. It's this way, like long ways. And then she put like put the cloth over it 10 but she's looking around the room, I guess just to look, like she was 11 remembering something, I guess, like where the lotion was. And there are 12 pictures of like, naked girls on the wall and there was like, there was like one big 13 mural of naked girls' like, butts. And then, towards the door, there was like a 14 cabinet here, like a built in thing, like a (inaudible) and urn, there's drawers in it 15 and she opened the last drawer and there was a whole bunch of lotions, like 16 millions and millions of kinds of lotions. And she picked out three kinds of lotions 17 and put them on like an armoire kind of thing with a mirror. And she set it there. 18 And then after, she told me, sit here for 5 minutes. Like, just sit there. And 19 eventually he came in and he was like, hi I'm Jeff and I'm like hi, I'm And 20 he's like, I'll be right back, . And then he left. And 21 there's a bedroom out there and he just went out there and I don't know but 22 there's like, pictures out there, I think, I don't remember, he took off his clothes 23 and put a towel over himself. But I don't know if there was a towel thing back Page 21 of 43 EFTA00259726 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 • • • • • there cause it's like, I don't remember.... Did he undress in front of you? No, he didn't. But he took off his towel in front of me. Okay. So he came back in.... Yeah, he came back into the room and he was.... Were you dressed? Did you see him naked? Yes I did. And it was disgusting. I don't mean to... I know maybe it's disgusting but can you describe him? Did he have any marks, tattoos, was he hairy? Yes, he was really very hairy on his chest and on his back and towards...okay I don't mean to sound gross but.... No, say it the way you would if you were speaking to one of your best friends. Okay. (inaudible) Okay. Ile was laying on his belly side so his butt was like, up. And there was like, he had a very hairy back all the way to here and then there was just like a Page 22 of 43 EFTA00259727 1 hairy butt line going down to his butt. 2 Okay. 3 So gross. Okay, and then...(inaudible) 4 Did you see the front of him? 5 E. Yeah. Cause when he got off the table, he like turned this way so everything 6 showed towards me and then and 7 then he came back in. But he was very hairy on his chest area and I just looked 8 for like one second and it was very, very disgusting. Okay. That's all I have to 9 say about that. 10 is Do you know what it means....and I have to ask only because there are some 11 people that don't to be circumcised? 12 No. I don't, I don't really know... but I think he was on steroids because he was a 13 built guy and his weinie was very tiny. 14 •: His wee wee was very tiny. 15 Yes. 16 And when you mean wee wee, you mean what? 17 His penis. 18 E: Yes, his penis. Okay. 19 Yes, his penis. 20 ■ People call it different things. Alright. I just wanted to make sure we know. 21 Okay. He laid down, he took off his towel and he laid down. 22 He laid down on the 23 U: Did he take his towel completely off or just open it so... Page 23 of 43 EFTA00259728 1 ■ No, completely off. 2 ■: Okay. Where did he put the towel? 3 On the floor. Right like, the table underneath. 4 •: Okay. So he laid down, took the towel off. What happened next? 5 And then he's like, get the lotion. So I grabbed the lotion. Which, 6 and he, the 7 table is like, I mean the sink was, you know, the lotions were right there and I 8 9 So I got the lotions and he's like, he's 10 like this lotion and then I took that lotion and he's like squirt it on your hands and 11 then massage clockwise on my back cause I didn't know how to do it? and then 12 he's like telling me where he would like the massage, here and here, the right to 13 the left, down more, up more. So I was just massaging and he turned and 14 started having a conversation, oh what happened to and I'm like, 15 (inaudible) my ex-boyfriend (inaudible) what's your boyfriend's name. And 16 he was kind of questioning me and then he said what, he's like, could you stop? 17 I need to go. And I just stopped and I'm like okay. And he got off the table. He 18 put the towel over him. He bent down and got the towel and then he left the 19 room and 20 21 22 23 Page 24 of 43 EFTA00259729 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Okay. He was like.... 9 10 E- 11 12 • • O: Okay. 13 and then he walked back into the 14 room, took off his towel again and laid back on the thing and then he wanted the 15 same kind of massage but he was like oh use your (inaudible) a little bit more. 16 You were massaging his back? 17 Yeah. And then he, he's like, could you, (inaudible) 18 (inaudible) go back out of the room. He turned over and he said okay, please 19 massage my boobs. And then and he's like, he's 20 like, oh, like as I was doing it, as I was massaging, 21 22 E: I won't look. 23 And like 5 minutes after that, Page 25 of 43 EFTA00259730 1 arid think 2 the massage was like a half an hour but cause I don't know, the time I think was 3 a half an hour to 45 minutes and then I was done. And then he, I think he has 4 like a safe somewhere because around us he didn't have his wallet or something 5 because right when we got out the door, he left to go put the towel on again and 6 he put the towel on again and went out of the room and he goes you can put 7 your clothes back on. So I put my clothes back on and he walked right out there, 8 like two seconds and then came back like within two seconds. And he's like 9 here's your money. And then he gave me $300 in hundred dollar bills and they 10 were like brand new because they only had like one crease in them and that's 11 when they're folded in half. And he said thank you for your time. And then he 12 left. And he said you can see your way out and I was just walking and I got lost 13 cause there's so many different rooms and I got lost and I walked back 14 downstairs and was like just smiling and giggling, like, I guess it was what 15 the lady was saying and then she loo<ed at me and she looked back at the lady 16 and then she's like, the lady's like oh, bye cause it was time to go cause I 17 guess because I was done. And then, then we left the same way we came in 18 and then s like oh my gosh, goes how did you like it. Like how much 19 did he give you, how much did he pay you. And I'm like $300. And I was kind of 20 like $300, Cause the girl was like this. She was looking at me really weird. 21 The other girl that was with her. She's like really quiet though. And then she just 22 looked at me really weird and she's like trying to gaze into my eyeballs. And 23 then we went in the car and when we got in the car, like, let me see what Page 26 of 43 EFTA00259731 1 he gave you. And then I showed her my $300 and she's like, we're going to 2 Marshalls. And then, give me back my money and I put it in my back pocket. 3 And then she was trying to get me to describe what happened so I told her what 4 happened. And she's like, you could do this every Saturday. He's is like so rich. 5 And I was just kind of like, yeah, we could. And then, she put back on the music. 6 And then, when we were leaving, the lady was walking outside and I (inaudible) 7 one of the cars really fast but she was just going to the passenger seat and she 8 opened the door and then closed it. 9 ■ What did friend say? Did she say anything about it? 10 She was just like interested in what happened, like when we were talking, we're 11 like into the conversation and then she was kind of like giggling and laughing, 12 like, I think, I wouldn't say, I mean, I don't know if (inaudible) or not but she 13 wasn't acting surprised, you know, like giggling. She was just of like giggling and 14 laughing along with And then goes urn, and then when I was giving 15 the guy the massage, he goes, I know she's been working with me for a 16 long time and then when I came back downstairs, goes, you only paid me 17 $200. So.... 18 He liked you better. 19 I don't know. 20 Well, after you left, where did you go? 21 Marshalls or to TJ Maxx, one of those two. TJ Maxx or Marshalls. And she 22 bought a black purse. 23 ■ Okay. Did you see after that again? Page 27 of 43 EFTA00259732 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 B: N: • • : ■: ■: Urn, I don't think so because that's when I got grounded. And then that's when I got in trouble with the fight. So after that, I'm pretty sure I didn't. Most likely. Did you ever speak to her again? No, because I got my cell phone taken away. Okay. So you haven't see since the day you went to Jeffs house. Correct. Are you sure? Yeah. I'm 100 percent sure. How do you know she....now tell me what happened with your dad. Okay. Because my dad, I didn't know about until my sister told me when she came here. But my sister, on a Thursday, was coming here. And wait, Wednesday night, my dad said that he heard the dog barking and my dog is inside. So he's barking and he's outside, like barking towards outside and then my dad is like shut up cause he forgets the dog's name and the dog wouldn't be quiet. So he's like, I'm taking the dog outside. And then my dad took the dog outside and the dog was way in towards my dad's truck, like my dad thought he was attacking the animals but my dad, a person, a boy, I don't know for a fact but I know in my heart itsIM. Because got really mad over the whole situation. Did you tell what happened? Yeah. And that's when, he punched a wall and he like my face was right there and he punched the wall, like my face was right there and he punched the wall right next to my face. And he started getting all upset and crying and calling Page 28 of 43 EFTA00259733 1 how could you do this? Blah, blah, blah. And then 's like, okay, I 2 won't do it again. And like she just kind of like hung up and he was like I hate 3 her, I hate her and then I hate you too. And I was like okay and we broke up and 4 then I think (inaudible) on the computer and I think he told what 5 happened and she turned it into an extraordinary, like story so at school so I 6 would look like, you know, like I'm the bad person, like I'm a slut, I'm a whore or 7 something and she's going around school saying all this stuff and then so my 8 parents came, cause that's when I got mad at her and told her to stop talking but 9 she wouldn't stop talking about it. So I just got in a fight with her, like a fist fight 10 at school. And I got suspended and so did she but she only got suspended for 11 one day because I started the fight. So I got in trouble more. And my dad got 12 really mad and he grounded me for it, because he found the $300 in my wallet 13 and then my dad was like, you're grounded, you're grounded forever and he's all 14 freaking out, how could you do this, blah, blah. The school said you did. And 15 um, I didn't tell the school how, I told them I got it from my job, cause I worked at 16 Chick Filet but I quit. So I said I (inaudible) but nobody believed me so I was just 17 like believe what you want. Cause I didn't want to tell the principal or my 18 parents. 19 ■ Well, I think that the best thing that you're doing is that you're being honest. 20 Okay? 21 E- Urn hm. 22 E: You already know that they have a pretty good idea what happened. Okay? 23 I didn't even know there was like an investigation. Page 29 of 43 EFTA00259734 Well, that's.... 2 I just knew. 3 •: Well, this is why. What's happening is that I was made aware of this situation... 4 From my school? 5 •: I'm not gonna say, okay? I was made aware of this situation. And they look at it 6 like you were taken advantage of. Not that you did anything wrong, okay? Even 7 though you went there willingly. Even though you went there willingly, you were 8 still taken advantage of. Okay? Because you were put into a position that you 9 felt you had no choide. Once you were there, before when you were telling me 10 about how Jeff 11 12 13 I don't know. I didn't know what else to do because I was the only person up 14 there and he's like 45 years old and he has like big muscles, because, I don't 15 know, but I'm pretty sure 45 years old and big muscles, body builder. 16 U: Okay. 17 So I just felt intimidated because he's guy, first of all, and I'm a girl and I know 18 that was all the way downstairs with the lady and what was going to 19 do to help me all the way upstairs so I just did it. 20 ■: Okay. Now, there's one way I'm a little confused at because you said that, and 21 I'm using your words okay, that he You said before that he 22 When did he do that? 23 U: Page 30 of 43 EFTA00259735 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22. 23 • • • • a a When you..okay, when you were table? How was he positioned? Well, he was at first and then• was towards, okay, he was on the table. Okay. , was his back flat on the (inaudible) ..like (inaudible) cause I guess, I don't know, but... and he was like, Okay, but just now, when you're saying that, Urn hm. Urn hm. Page 31 of 43 EFTA00259736 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 N: • s : n: • ■ N: n: • • • • • • : • Okay. Okay. What else did you see? I just saw him... You keep other words, I don't know how to explain it. Okay, describe...don't.... Okay, sorry, So you saw Yes. No, what it means is that and I'm using your words, okay. Okay? Okay. To them. Oh, okay. Page 32 of 43 EFTA00259737 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 • ■: Okay? I'm just being very... I'm gonna tell you because I think.... I know that part. Okay. So the table again to go get the $300. Okay. He took the towel and like... And then, okay, like and then like as he was getting off and then this way instead of this way, this way, like that. Okay. Since you've•seen his penis, was there anything distinctive about it? Like did he have a mole on it? No, it was very small. Very small, that's fine. Did you notice...you said he was very hairy on his chest. Did he have any tattoos? Uh uh, not that I saw. Did he have any. scars? No, but he had freckles somewhere because he was huge. You're pointing at the chest area. Yeah, some freckles. Like a mole or a freckle? A freckle. Okay. Can you tell me what he looks like? Page 33 of 43 EFTA00259738 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ■' • ■' • ii......i. U He had like not white hair but it was, not white but it, you know, it was kind of like, like me. It was like.... I don't know. He was going gray. Yes. He was going gray. And he had... What color hair did he have before? Blonde, brown? No. You were describing Jeff to me, with the freckle and he was going gray and what else? Urn, like he, like his skin color is like, when I saw him, when you have a sunburn, but its like when you have it a couple of days and it's turning into a tan. It was like a reddish tannish color. And he had like a long face and that's about all I can remember and he had a white t shirt when he first came in. Okay. I don't really remember... Did he have any king of like jewelry on his body that you noticed? I didn't, I don't remember. Okay. Do you remember what color eyes he had? Nope. Did he have any facial hair, like a mustache? Or a goatee or anything? Hmm....No but his eyebrows were really thick and they were bushy, like everywhere. Okay. Did he ever ask you to do anything other than massaging him? No. Page 34 of 43 EFTA00259739 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Are you sure? Yes. Did he try to, Okay. You said that Urn hm. What do you mean by that? When..he was on his stomach and I was giving him a massage, like I was, you know where, like, on.. Okay. Now when you say Okay. Urn hm. And then like, No, he's like..because at first, I was giving him a massage like you know, standing up. And he, then he's like Page 35 of 43 EFTA00259740 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Okay. 8 . 9 10 ■ 11 • Like, 12 he was just like.... 13 14 • No,... 15 E. What do you.... 16 . 17 18 Can you show me what you mean? 19 ■ Okay. He was 20 • Let's say I'm on my back. Where would you be, I'm Jeff, where would you be 21 standing? 22 . I'm right here. I was like, 23 Okay. Page 36 of 43 EFTA00259741 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII•IIMI IPPIIIIIIII.O. Okay and when he backed up. Which way, this way? Yeah. Okay, I'm going to my left. All the way around til your back's on the table. Okay. I'm facing you. And then you're, your face is a little bit that way... My right. Okay. And (inaudible) towards, like on his knees, kind of.... Okay, I'm hunched over a little bit. And I'm over here. And I"m still giving you a massage and everything but. (inaudible) Okay. Okay. Um hm. His right hand. Yes. Okay. It just gives me a better picture of trying to understand, that's why. Um hm. And I appreciate you doing that. I don't mean to make you feel uncomfortable. Do you feel uncomfortable? No. Page 37 of 43 EFTA00259742 1 . Okay. After everything was done, okay, did he 2 Iff No. Cause while he was out there getting the $300. I 3 guess that's what he was doing. That's the only thing he came back in with. He 4 was still in a towel and stuff. 5 . In the room, at all, do you think...and I don't know if there is or not, but do you 6 think there is anything in there that may have recorded what you did? 7 M: Oh my gosh.... 8 •: A video camera... 9 . Oh my gosh. I didn't think about that. There was lots of places there could have 10 been one because there's pictures, that could have been, I don't know.... 11 . When he walked out... the reason why I ask is because he walked out once and 12 then came back in, right? 13 . Yes. 14 . So it could be just so I was just curious. I don't know if 15 there is or not. 16 . If there was, I did not know about it. 17 1* Okay. So , you go downstairs. Where is that woman again? 18 . Downstairs talking to and the other girl. 19 .: Okay. 20 M. They were having a conversation. 21 II Okay. At any time, did he speak to you or does he know how old you are, did he 22 know how old you were? 23 il Okay. Yes. And, as a matter of fact, told me to say I was 18, because Page 38 of 43 EFTA00259743 said tell him you're 18 because if you're not, he won't let you in his house. 2 So I said he was 18. As I was giving him a massage, he was like how old are 3 you. And then I was 18. But I kind of said it really fast because I didn't want to 4 make it sound like I was lying or anything. 5 So what other things did he ask you? 6 Urn, how I know what school I went to. 7 Did you tell him what school you went to? 8 Yeah but I told him I didn't tell him 9 E. Did he ask you what grade you were in or did you tell him what grade you were 1O in? 11 In Yeah, he was like what grade are you in? Because I told him I was in 12'h grade 12 still. 13 Okay. 14 Because I told him I was 18 so I had to... 15 So you told him you were in 12'h grade? 16 Yes. 17 Are you sure? 18 Yes. 19 Okay. What else did you talk about? 20 Urn, that's about it. And he was kind of asking me like how I knew is 21 nice to me and then he told me how he knew and he was like, I was 22 kind of like, how do you know Cause I brought up the conversation. He 23 said well I know because she's been working for me for a long time. And Page 39 of 43 I EFTA00259744 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ■: ■: ■: ■: ■: ■: ■: • ■: ■' then like, I kind of, you kind of get the picture, working for you and hello, I'm sitting there giving him a back massage. So I kind of figured it out. He never said that, he just... Yes.. ...said that she worked for him. Yeah but don't...on our way back home, that, like, doesn't make any sense if she didn't do that because why would be doing (inaudible) for almost the same amount of money as me. Right. Well, why couldn't he pay her that day? I don't know, because that's a good question. Cause she didn't, as far as I know, but I don't know but I'm pretty sure she didn't tell me, she didn't think. She was just downstairs having a conversation. And I think that when I went up to the lady, he paid her because like, you know, so because, he paid her while I went upstairs and when I went downstairs, she was still talking to the lady still and she goes, when we were in the kitchen waiting, the old man to come to the house still, she said, oh the chef is so hot, he works here and she was like, and she's like he's so hot, you know, saying his face and then the other girl (inaudible) because when we saw the chef come in, he was old, too. He was like... So likes older guys. Must like it. Okay. So you left and that was the last time you see him. Yes and that's the last time I went.... Has Jeff ever tried to call you? Page 43 of 43 EFTA00259745 1 .: Nope. And... 2 E: Did you leave a phone number? 3 .: Yeah. Actually I did. Cause when I was leaving, he goes um, please leave your 4 phone number so can keep in touch with you because she doesn't have 5 your phone number. So I didn't, I just gave him my cell phone number. I didn't 6 give him my house number, I gave him my cell phone number. 7 . And how long ago was this? 8 . Oh my gosh, I couldn't tell you the date but....it was about maybe, oh my gosh, a 9 month and a half ago. I don't really know.. 10 ■: In February? 11 M: 12 U: Because we're in March right now. 13 U: Either the very beginning of February or the end of January. I couldn't tell you... 14 a How long after did you get into that fight with 15 M. Um, like a week, cause... 16 ■: You got into a fight with on the 91°. 17 10. Okay, so yes, it was about a week after....or before. 18 MI: Okay. And who else beside' did you tell what happened? 19 . That's it. 20 ■: Besides of course. 21 E- and 22 U- Do you think has brought anybody else that you know of? 23 . No, but she wanted me to bring my sister but that same day was going to her Page 41 of 43 EFTA00259746 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 U •PIIIIIIPIIMPRP boyfriend's house. Okay. And, when I was in that guy's room, there was a like, where the drawers of lotion were, there's like a shelf of pictures and he had so many pictures of girls about 16, 17, around that age, 17 or 18. And they were like on the walls and most of....all the girls were topless or just plain naked. And they were in positions or they were just standing up. Okay. Looking at pictures. Okay. Well, I have to ask you. Do you know the difference between....and you're a grown woman, so I'm asking you. You're pretty mature for your age. Okay? Do you know the difference between right and wrong? Yes. Do you know the difference between the truth and a lie? yes. Can you tell me what a lie would be? Um, not saying the truth. Okay. So if I tell you you are wearing a blue sweater right now I could tell you you're lying. Why? Because I'm wearing a pink one. You got it. Is everything you've told me the truth? Yes. Page 42 of 43 EFTA00259747 1 Are you lying about anything? 2 No. I'll swear on the bible. 3 Okay. Swearing to God, that's good enough for me. 4 .: I swear to God, 5 ■ Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to talk to me about? 6 No, because that's about.... nothing else about the whole thing. 7 So that's it. 8 9 10 11 12 13 U. 14 15 16 17 And just so I can be sure, 18 19 .: Okay. And as far as you think 20 ■: I think, I know, well, I couldn't say I know, but 21 (inaudible). 22 And that's it. I thank you very much. This will conclude the interview. The time 23 now by my watch is approximately 3:05. Page 43 of 43 EFTA00259748