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October 28, 2010
By E-mail and By Hand
CONFIDENTIAL
Jennifer Gaffney, Esq.
Deputy Bureau Chief, Sex Crimes Unit
New York District Attorneys Office
One Hogan Place
New York, NY 10013
Patrick Egan, Esq.
Assistant District Attorney, Sex Crimes Unit / Trial Bureau 40
New York District Attorneys Office
One Hogan Place
New York, NY 10013
Re:
SORA Determination for Jeffrey E. Epstein, NYS1D # OS1909,
Supreme Court Case # 30129-2010
Dear ADA Gaffney and ADA Egan:
As you know, we represent Jeffrey E. Epstein, who is scheduled to appear in New York
Supreme Court, Part 66, on Tuesday, November 9, 2010 for a hearing before the Honorable Ruth
Pickholz pursuant to New York's Sex Offender Registration Act (SORA), N.Y. Correction Law
§ 168 et seq. (McKinney 2008).
To follow up on our conversation in your office on October 13, and as you have
requested, we are providing you with a select sampling of materials that we believe expose the
stark contrast between the inflammatory, speculative case summary presented by the Board of
Examiners in its recommendation for Mr. Epstein, and the actual evidence that exists concerning
the alleged conduct for which New York seeks to require Mr. Epstein to register under SORA.
We believe that these materials validate our position that Mr. Epstein should most appropriately
be designated as a Level 1 offender. Not only is the Board's Level 3 recommendation absurd,
given that the offense triggering the registration requirement would most likely have been a non-
registerable misdemeanor if committed in New York instead of Florida, but as laid bare by the
attached sampling of transcript excerpts and other evidence, the Board's purported calculation is
also unsupportable under the applicable "clear and convincing evidence" standard.
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First, as we attempted to explain during our meeting with you, the specific conduct which
formed the basis of Mr. Epstein's conviction requiring registration under Florida law -- a
conviction for Procuring a Person Under 18 for Prostitution, in violation of Fla. Stat. § 796.03' --
was a consensual arrangement in whic
. Epstein received massages and engaged in sexual
touching in exchange for money withM., a young woman who was over New York's age of
consent when the offense cited in
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when she was
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Exhibit A,
Tr. 3:15-20 11. stating that she first heard about Epstein from a friend
"about a year ago").
•
Exhibit A,
Tr. 5:14-23 S.
stating that after meeting Epstein for the first time,
she "didn't go again for about two months or so").
•
Exhibit A,
Tr. 6:13-22 5.
telling
that she saw Epstein approximately
15 times in total, and "things escalated" as time went on).
Furthermore, the record is undisputed that.. was at leash and over New York's age of
consent during the one time that she engaged in consensual sexual intercourse with Mr. Epstein:
• Exhibit A
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As previously noted, Jeffrey Epstein concurrently pleaded guilty to an indictment charging him with one
count of Felony Solicitation for Prostitution, Fla. Slat § 796.07(2Xf), (4Xc), which is not a registerable offense
under Florida or New York law. See Ha. Stat. § 943.0435; N.Y. Correction Law § 168-a(2)(a).
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signed under oath and filed with th
in order to
obtain an arrest
for Jeffrey Epstein, bet
in discussing allegations involving M., omitted the
material fact their:Clearly stated that her decision to engage in intercourse with Epstein was consensual.
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Moreover, contrary to a characterization in tl •
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clear in her testimony that she voluntaril
in front of Epstein when she
was well over
and nearing he
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Tr. 12:12-13:12 a.
statin the last time that she saw Epstein --
hich, based on testimon cited above, was
- was the week before
•
Exhibit A,
, and further stating that the one time she was with
the female friend was shortly before that, around October 2nd or 3rd).
All of this conduct involving II. would have constituted, at most, a non-registerable
misdemeanor if committed in New York instead of Florida. See N.Y. Penal Law § 230.04
(McKinney 2004).4 Because it cannot be proven by "clear and convincing evidence (or indeed,
by any credible evidence) that Mr. Epstein engaged in sexual conduct with
specifically
during the time that she was under 17, Mr. Epstein is not guilty of any registerable offense under
New York law. See N.Y. Correction Law § 168-a(2)(a)(i).
A brief look at the evidence concerning
another woman who appears to play a
significant role in the Board's recommendation, similarly demonstrates that Det.
mischaracterized IN's claims to manufacture registerable conduct with respect to
For
example,
could not provide firm or even approximate dates for her earliest interactions with
Mr. Epstein:
•
Exhibit C,.
Tr. 2:24-27 AI. stating
r date of birth is
which would have made her
when she was interviewed by Det.
off).
Again, the transcript oal's interview with Det
reveals significant prejudicial Sc acies in
Probable Cause Affidavit. For example,
swore that
. claimed that
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. Epstein pleaded guilty criminalizes the prostitution of a
person who is under the age of 18 (i.e. 16 and 17 years old), see Fla. Stat. § 796.03, but under New York law,
patronizing a prostitute is only a registerable offense where the prostitute is ander the age of 17, whether under
2004 law or the broader scope of Penal Law § 230.04 in effect today. See Correction Law § 168-a(2)(a)(i) (stating
that Patronizing a Prostitute in the Third Degree, N.Y. Penal Law § 230.04, is a registerable offense "where the
person patronized is in fact less than seventeen years of age").
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• Exhibit C,11. Tr. 3:11-20
estimating that her contact with Epstein lasted
somewhere between a year and a half and two years).
•
Exhibit C,M Tr. 4:12-23 M. guessing about the timings.LheUrst meeting with
Epstein and stating that she does not know whether she waMorill).
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Exhibit
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saying that she cannot keep track of specifically
when different events with Epstein took place).
While.. could not say with certainty when she first met and massaged Mr. Epstein,
stated definitively and unambiguously that she w
• Exhibit C,Ill Tr. III:21-33 IE. saying that she was "definitely" 17 whe
-but
that she could not recall the specific date of when that took place).
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See also Exhibit B,
Dep. 407:4-411:9
M. wasp or■ during
date).
In addition to establishing that.. was 17 during her interacts
with Mr. Epsteiiiii
therefore, Mr. Epstein's conduct toward her is not reportable), M.'s statements to
further reveal that'll. viewed her interactions with Mr. Epstein{both sexual
as well as her
testifying that he understood that
or which she could provide no specific
• Exhibit C,.
Tr. 15:1-21 (E. telling
that Epstein would pay her money to
spend time with him, relax by the pool, and eat meals, without any sexual activity, and
•
Exhibit C
unless h
Tr. 20:13.2
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• Exhibit C,
Tr. 19:13-23
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•
Exhibit C,
Tr. 13:28-41 (
statin that even after s eakin to olicc she "didn't
• Exhibit C
Tr. 27:12-27 ft
The enclosed excerpts should make clear that fl
-- inaccurately described in the Board's
recommendation as the "16-year old victim" who went to Epstein's home "at least 100 times" --
was not, in fact, a victim of any reportable criminal conduct by Jeffrey Epstein, but rather, was
an opportunistic young woman who, at 17 and 18 years of age, repeatedly made conscious
decisions
• Exhibit D, Palm Beach Police Report S
for A.
In short,
was not a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, and accordingly, Mr. Epstein's conduct
involving
. should not factor into the SORA assessment at all.
In fact, transcriptsigce interviews with numerous other women who are cited in the
police reports and in the
Probable Cause Affidavit reveal multiple other troubling
inaccuracies and exaggerations in the police paperwork on which the Board apparently blindly
relied in reaching its unsupportable Level 3 recommendation. The following are just a few
examples of several such egregious misstatements and material omissions in the police
paperwork:
•
Exhibit F,
Tr. 11:25-12:21
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telling police that Epstein liked girls who were "between the ages of like 18 and 20" -- a
qualification that appears to have been deliberate) omitted from
statement in
the Probable Cause Affidavit that Epstein told M., "The younger, the better").
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•
Exhibit GIME Tr. 5:18-23, 11:6-22 (17-year-old woman stating to police that Epstein
did not touch her inappropriately, did not try to touch her and did not masturbate while
she gave him a massage, despite allegations in the
Probable Cause Affidavit that
Epst •
•
Exhibit II,
Tr. 2:25-3:12, 18:7-20 (woman stating that she was 17 when she first
met Epstein and telling police that Epstein never used any sex toys on her and touched
her with his hands (as opposed to "something else'l. refuting a claim
Probable Cause Affidavit tha
•
Exhibit I,
Tr. 12:6-12 Ian telling police that she was 17 when she first met
Epstein, in contradiction to the IMIll Probable Cause Affidavit which states that this
same woman was only 16 when she first met Epstein)
•
Exhibit J,
Tr. 4:10-11, 11:4-7 (woman statin that her date of birth =NM
MI, which would have made here years an'
old during her sole contact with
Epstein in
and testifying that her interaction with Epstein was entirely
consensual
ite claim in the
Probable Cause Affidavit that she had "just
turn
' and suggestion that she was coerced or tricked into interacting with
Epstein).
• Exhibit Ker.
3:18-4:1, 5:6.15 (clarifying that woman wan
years old
during her sole encounter with Epsaid therefore, any sexual conduct with him
described in the police report and
Probable Cause Affidavit should not be scored
under SORA and was not even criminal or reportable under the applicable Florida law).
In fact, in a deposition, Det.
himself acknowledged that there were certain other
damning allegations contained in his police reports that he failed to correct, to the detriment of
Mr. Epstein:
•
Exhibit B,
Dep. 423:1.425:17 (
testifying that he knew that Epstein had
purchased covert cameras near his desk on the first-floor of his Palm Beach home
following a burgl
to 2003, a fact that
failed to mention in his police report
when noting that MI
"found" a covert camera located in that very location).
•
Exhibit 13,
Dep. 458:8-460:18 AM. testifying that he knew that certain
objects recovered from Epstein's garbage, which had been incorrectly identified as "anal
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wands," were in fact broken eating utensils (not sex toys), and noting that he made no
amendment in his police report to reflect that correction).
also admitted in his deposition that the prosecutor handling the Epstein matter, whom
acknowledged to be an experiencscimosecutor specializing in sex crimes cases
involving children, expressed her view to ME
that, "There are no real victims here."
•
Exhibit B,
Dep. 484:2
3 a
conceding that the Florida prosecutor
handling the Epstein case told
that there were no victims in this case).
•
Exhibit B,
Dep. 506:18-507:21 .
acknowledging that the Florida
prosecutor handling the Epstein case had been with the State Attorney's office for
approximately twenty years and specialized in sex crimes cases involving underage
children).
Indeed, the state prosecutor herself investigated and evaluated the allegations of the numerous
women cited in Det.
86-page police report and apparently discounted most of them,
determining that the only charge for which he could be indicted was one count of Felony
Solicitation for Prostitution, Fla. Stat. § 796.07 (which, as previously noted, is not a registerable
offense under Florida law, see Fla. Stat. § 943.0435). No charge of rape or sexual contact with a
minor was ever prosecuted in connection with any allegations made against Jeffrey Epstein, a
fact that, in itself and by the terms of the SORA Guidelines, is compelling evidence that such
offenses did not occur. See Sex Offender Registration Act: Risk Assessment Guidelines and
Commentary, Commentary at 5,117 (2006). Accordingly, Jeffrey Epstein should not be scored
for such alleged conduct that was squarely rejected by the prosecutor and/or grand jury.
The evidence also makes abundantly clear that Jeffrey Epstein did not know that certain
of the woman whom he hired to give him massages were underage, due in large part to the fact
that these women lied outright and sought to deceive Mr. Epstein about their ages:
• Exhibit F,
Tr. 12:13-21
. tellin
olice that she lied to
t
• Exhibit J,
Dep. 15:25-17:2 (woman testifying that she was told b
that she
had to be over 18 to massage Epstein,
• Exhibit G,
Tr. 5:5-8 (woman telling police that Epstein did not know her age).
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•
Exhibit L,
Tr. 38:21-39:18 telling police that she told Epstein that she
was 18 and in twelfth grade because
told her that Epstein would not allow her in his
house if she was under 18).
• Exhibit M,
Dep. 32:1119, 35:19-38:7
testifying that she was told that
Epstein would not allow her into his house if she was under 18,
• Exhibit N,_Dep. 6:11-20, 7:24-8:8 (woman testifying that she was instructed to tell
Epstein that she was 18 if she wanted to give him a massage for money
• Exhibit O,
Tr. 13:16-22 (woman telling police that Epstein never knew her age,
but she was instructed to tell Epstein that she was 18 because women had to be a certain
age to massage him).
In fact, M, the sole 14-year-old cited in the Board's write-u h
•
Exhibit P, Ill's MySpace Page j rtraying
to be age 18 ins
when she
• FxhibitM,
Dep. 68:12-69:18
her MySpace page).
• Exhibit M,
Dep. 108:7-110:1
• Exhibit M,
Dep. 121:3-21 (a
she was 14, before she ever met Epstein).
This evidence represents just a small sampling of the materials generated during the lengthy
investigation and prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein (as well as during the case's aftermath), but we
believe it exposes the allegations cited in the Board's case summary as being unsubstantiated and
utterly unreliable. The glaring discrepancies between the accounts of various women and the
mischaracterization of their claims in the police paperwork, the lack of reliable evidence that
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certain women were underage at the time of their encounters with Mr. Epstein, and the
questionable credibility and self-interest of many of the women cited all support the conclusion
of the Palm Beach prosecutor that there were no victims here. Moreover, these facts cannot
support by "clear and convincing evidence" the grossly inflated SORA risk assessment
calculation offered by the Board. For all of the reasons set forth herein and in our letter of
October 11, 2010, therefore, we ask you to reject the Board's recommendation outright and
advocate for a more reasonable Level I designation, in line with what several other jurisdictions
have already done.
Finally, on a separate but related point, we note that upon further consideration and
investigation, our current view is that Jeffrey Epstein should not be required to register in New
York at all! Mr. Epstein maintains his primary residence in the U.S. Virgin Islands and does not
actually live, work, or attend school in New York, the three measures which determine whether
someone needs to register under SORA. See N.Y. Correction Law § 168-a(14), (15), § 168-k.
Indeed, the New York State Department of Taxation has not recognized Mr. Epstein as a
domiciliary of New York since 1992, despite the fact that he has maintained a vacation home in
New York since that time:
•
Exhibit Q, State of New York Department of Taxation and Finance, 3/1/1996
Statement of Personal Income Tax Audit Changes, at 1.
Mr. Epstein has already registered as a sex offender in the jurisdiction of his residence -- the U.S.
Virgin Islands. And the other states where he owns secondary residences -- Florida (the state of
his offense) and New Mexico — have determined either that he should only be subject to that
jurisdiction's lowest reporting obligations or that he is not required to register at all. Yet even
in New Mexico, where he is not required to register, Mr. Epstein has chosen to maintain his
registration, again, to ensure his compliance with federal law. Because it is our view that Jeffrey
Epstein should not be required to register in New York at all, given the short temporary visits he
makes to the state, should he be designated as anything other than a Level 1 offender, we would
likely be compelled to challenge the initial determination of the Board concerning his obligation
to register in New York in the first instance by filing an Article 78 proceeding.
Thank you again for meeting with us two weeks ago and for giving us the opportunity to
provide you with these materials. We hope that these excerpts and other documents have
Of course, as we discussed in our meeting, Jeffrey Epstein intends to register in New York under SORA,
whether required to or not, in order to ensure his compliance with the federal Sexual Offender Registration and
Notification Act (SORNA), 42 U.S.C.A. § 16901 et seq., and indeed, he has voluntarily been registered with the
N.Y.P.D.'s Sex Offender Monitoring Unit (SOMU) since May 20, 2010.
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demonstrated to you that the Board's recommendation was based on an imprecise analysis of a
flawed presentation of allegations. The evidence that we have presented reveals that the Board
failed to scrutinize, or even consider individually, the allegations contained in the police reports,
and as a consequence, the Board came up with a recommendation that deviates dramatically
from the findings of the prosecutor who investigated and evaluated this case, as well as every
other jurisdiction that has considered Mr. Epstein's registration obligations. For all of these
reasons, we ask you to reject the unfounded recommendation of the Board of Examiners, which
cannot be supported by clear and convincing evidence, and instead, defer to the discretion of the
states that have a more direct nexus to Mr. Epstein and his offense by designating Mr. Epstein as
a Level 1 under SORA.
We are happy to meet again or schedule a call should you require additional information
or wish to discuss this matter further. In any event, we look forward to speaking with you about
this matter and your position on the SORA hearing in advance of our scheduled court date on
November 9th.
Sincerely,
Jay P. Le t r 'tz, P.0
Sandra Lynn Musumeci
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A. Fri:intik beginning, yes.
Q. And Ws fair to say that some subset of those
couple of yew occurred after she turned 18, and a
significant part of it was before she turned 18,
correct?
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Q. And when was that a high school transcript?
The high school year ends in the spring?
A. It would have been, yes.
Q. And not in December?
A. Correct
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would have been in the middle of her senior year in high
school?
A. Correct.
Q. And therefore, she continued to see
Mr. Epstein after she was 18 and up to the period
inunerlimPly before her graduation in the spring of 2005,
correct?
Let me date it another wa
She was a
freshman at college when
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Q. As part of your assistance, you brought
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A. Correct.
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stealing money from him, had gone out and for the
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purpose of malting that identification, had purchased
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certain amass himself/
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A. I Mien so, yes.
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Q. And that he installed than so that the camas
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was poking out of a carnal on the first floor of his
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A. I wasn't sure if it was the bag or the drawer,
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but it was focused on the desk area.
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Q. Camera, first floor directed to the desk area?
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A. Yes. It was e bookshelf behind. It was like
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Q. And that you came in and supplemaned those
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cameras to try to help Mr. Epstein identify this thief.
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correct?
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A. Correct.
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Q. And you, thereafter, took out your contras
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when the thief was identified by Mr. Epstein, correct?
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A. Correct.
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Q. And the thief was identified through
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photographs of this desk area at the first floor of
Mr. Epstein's residence, coned?
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A. 'believe so, yes.
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Q. And you never saw a camera in the massage room
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on the second floor of Mr. Epstein's residence during
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this 2003 period, cared?
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A. I never wan upstairs.
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Q. None of the girls said that the massages was a
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videoed or a photographed evert; did they?
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A. One of the girls recalled having their
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photograph taken addle in a tub.
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But no, I never wan upstairs during that
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investigation, so I dont know if there was any covert
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cameras up Mere, so...
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Q. You don't know that there was one, correct?
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A. Coned.
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purchased it, correct?
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A. Yes.
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Q. And he purchased it from a spy store, a store
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that sold such covert cameras, correct?
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A. Yes.
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Q. And he told you, you as a law enforcement
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officer, that be had done so for a specific purpose,
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coned?
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A. It was for that case, yes.
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Q. Right To identify someone who was
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responsible for the theft of currency from the desk area
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on the fast floor?
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A. 1 believe it was attraxy and a gun, if I'm
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Q. And he neva told you be had ever, on any
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other occasion, purchased a covert camera, correct?
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A. I did read that, yes.
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Q. Do you recall that within the trash pulls,
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there was some references to a belief amongst the
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officers that there were sex utensils or sex objects
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That were being identified and pulled out of the trash?
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A. Yes.
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MS. ARBOUR: Form.
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THE WITNESS: I recall the incident, the thing
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A. Yeah.
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Q. And do you read! within the Iry-jets-et report
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there was a reference to this so-called object as one
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that was consistent with use of anal sex?
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A. Yes. They thought originally it was an anal
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eating; that there was no amendment to the incident
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report that reflected the discoveries of October 20 in
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that the believed sex toys were, in fact, kitchen
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utensils?
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the officers, that what they were picking out of the
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garbage were sexual mechanisms that —
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A. Right; they thought they were anal wands.
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they thought were mat wands.
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A. Right.
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Q. That on October 20th, when you went to
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mistaken.
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A. Correct.
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Q. That those objects taken oat of the garbage
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were, in fact, parts of eating utensils, correct?
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A. Correct.
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Q. Was there ever an amendment to the incident
8
report that reflected the knowledge that what had
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previously believed to have been a sex utensil was, in
10
fact, an eating utensil?
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MS. ARBOUR Falb.
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THE WITNESS: It might have been referenced in
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an amendment to the report, fair to say/
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talkiog to?
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Ms. Beloblavek wherein you discussed whether or not your
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Q. Lonna was an experienced State attorney,
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correct?
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THE WITNESS: 1 know she had been there foe
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sometime.
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Q. And she, on other occasions, advocated
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prosecution of people on felony charges, comet?
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office, State Attorneys office, when I was employed
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Q. And that was how many years ago?
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20 years ago?
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people that were -- for offenses that dealt with
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violations of underaged people, correct?
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