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Casasé 2k Oreo aiites PAE nama a FRED CREE 22a Pee pays Ba f G76 7 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, vy PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL., February 15, 2012 C2trdaus Conrad - direct Page 169 C2frdau5 Gonrad - direct Page 171 1 the answer is no. 1 no one asked you about being a lawyer? 2 Q. How did you explain the note about respondeat superior? 2 A. Sir, that's posing the quantum theory if the tree doesn't 3 A. Common knowledge, Actually, | didn't have toexplainit. | 3 fall and nobody sees it. No, of course the answer is no, 4 [just handed it to Juror No. 2, who was our forewoman, and she | 4 Q. Do you believe that you lied to the Court about being a 5 submitted it to the Court. | 5 lawyer? 6 Q. When you were deliberating in this case, did you haveit | 6 A. I know ] omitted that very pertinent fact. 7 present in your mind that you had lied to get on to this jury? | 7 Q. Do you believe that was a lie? 8 A. I don't think I'm supposed to answer questions about jury | @ A. Yes. § room deliberations, sir. 9 Q. Do you believe that it was the Court's fault for not asking 10 THE COURT: You can answer that question, 10 you whether you were a lawyer? 11 A. Could you please restate it. 11 A. No, of course not. 12 Q. When you were deliberating in this case, did you have it 12 Q. No, because if you had told the Court that you went to law 13 present in your mind that you had lied to get on the jury? 13 school, you would have been asked, right? 14 A. No, no. A. [would have been asked or axed, like they would have axed 15 Q. Between the time when you told the lies and the time you me from the jury? 16 rendered your verdict, when did you stop having it presentin 16 Q. Let me pose a different question. In voir dire when you 17 your mind thinking about the fact that you had lied to get on | 17 were being asked specific questions, did you tell the judge HH Ol om 1s the jury? 18 anything that was true besides your admiration for Lynn Swann, 19 A, Oh, sir, I don't know. 19 the fact that you have no children’? Did you tell him anything 20 Q. Was it when we were cross-cxamining witnesses and exposing 20 that was true? 21 untruths that they had told? 21 A. Of course. 122 A. I don't have a time estimate for it. 22 Q. What? }23 Q. Do you remember when Mr. Shanbrom was on the witness stand? |23 A. ] have a BA in English literature. 24 A. Shambron, yes. 24 Q. OK. 25 Q. Do you remember what a liar he was? 25 A. And I studied archeology abroad. And I consider my C2frdaus Conrad - direct Page 170 | C2frdaus Conrad - direct Page 172 1 A. I'm not the judge. 1. residence in Bronxville, not Bronx Village. There were only 2 Q. Do you remember at that time thinking, wow, I've told lies | 2 seven questions that were posed, I believe. ) 3. just like he did? 3 Q. You told the truth in just about all of them, right? 4 A. No, I never thought that. 4 A. You have to qualify your question, because there were 5 Q. When the marshals came out to serve you with an order on 5 questions that were asked to the jury panel as a whole and then 6 December [Sth to tell you to come to court, did you tellthe | 6 individually. I revealed the fact that -- well, whatever you 7 marshals that you had lied about not being a lawyer? | 7 said before. 8 A. Will you please restate the question. 8 Q. One question we haven't covered there on page 204 is the 9 Q. Yes, I can. Do you remember when the marshals came outto | 9 last question, That question is, "The Court: All right. Is 10 serve you at your house? 10 there anything you think it would be important for us to know 11 A. Yes, of course. 11 about you in making a decision as to whether you should serve 12 Q. By the way, was that on Barker Avenue? 12 asa juror in this case?" Do you remember him asking that j13 A. Yes. 13. question? 14 Q. When they came out to serve you, did you tell them, [think |14 A. Absolutely, 15 I know what this is about? 15 Q. You said, “If the trial lasts more than three months, I'm 16 A. Oh, first I told them we have cats, and if you're allergic, |16 still available.” 17 stay outside. But specifically I don't really recall what [ |17 A, Correct. 18 said. 18 Q. Because you really wanted to be on this jury? 19 Q. Do you recall telling them that in your view you had not |19 A. And I was available. 20 lied, because no one asked you about whether or not you were a }2 0 Q. You said it because you really wanted to be on this jury, 21 lawyer? 21° right? 22 A. Idon'trecall. They were there for maybe a minute handing |22 A. 1] can't pinpoint at that time. I'm sorry, 23. me the subpoena, and that was about it. 23 Q. Did you think that there was nothing else that was 24 Q. Atany time since last August, have you thought, have you |24 important for us to know about you in making a decision as to 25 had the belief that you didn't lie about being alawyer because [25 whether you should serve as a juror? cyte SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS (43) Page 169 - Page 172 DOJ-OGR-00009935