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The first time flew on his private jet was to New York. Her first trip to New Mexico a driver picked her up at her house and drove to EPSTEIN's palm beach house. Once at his house they traveled to the airport together from there. is not sure who drove to the airport. She recalls that when they typically arrive at the airport they would drive right up to the plane. She recalls sitting in the back seat of the car with EPSTEIN. On at least one occasion EPSTEIN sat in the front of the car and was not driving, while MAXWELL sat in the back with her. Typically, EPSTEIN would just get out of the car and everyone was just expected to follow him. was then asked about flight records and her first flight on his private jet. thinks it was to New York, and several people were on this flight. is pretty sure that EPSTEIN's brother was on this flight, and maybe his mother. Others on the flight she didn't know. was then asked names of people that were on these flight records and if she recalls knowing them. Her answers were as follows: Sophie? —yes Jeff Schantz? —no Eva? —yes...she was his ex-girlfriend and they stayed friends. met her a few times and is not sure if she was part of the massages. EFTA00153672 was then asked if she recalls the next private jet flight. She thinks that it was to New York. She thinks that the 3rd flight may have been to New Mexico. was asked if she remembers flying from New York to New Mexico to which she answers yes. There was a couple other people on the plane. The chef may have come with 2 other men possibly. was asked about the time that she flew to New Mexico with just EPSTEIN and MAXWELL, "could that have been from New York?". responds "yes". was asked if she remembers how she got to New York first. states she may have flown up from Florida to New York for the New Mexico trip. Although she is not totally sure of that. was asked about her first New Mexico trip and what activities she did. recalls there being horses around. She recalls going hiking. She remembers not doing too much and just sitting around mostly. She does not recall specific abuse that may have occurred. does no remember if EPSTEIN had a massage room in his New Mexico home but does he probably had one. was asked if she recalls any specific abuse that occurred in New Mexico and she states she is not sure. The place was dark and she does not recall much details of this location. If there was abuse that occurred there it wouldn't EFTA00153673 have been a group thing, but she cannot recall anything specific. had her own room in New Mexico. New Mexico was the foggy of memories for was asked if there was ever a time when EPSTEIN came into her room while in New Mexico and she responds "no". was asked if she remembers how she left New Mexico the first weekend she stayed there. says no but on at least one trip home from New Mexico she flew commercially. had to be driven to the airport. would have had to be home in time for school, she recalls travelling all day on Sunday. was asked about a flight that she took on a Friday in 1997 from New Jersey (Teterboro) to New Mexico. She is asked if she remembers leaving at the end of the weekend. She states that there was a driver who brought her to the airport. In New York recalls that EPSTEIN had a driver who was originally from Tibet. Her first trip to New York was to just go and have fun. This may have been the trip that she went to see the Lion King. There were some other persons on this flight who may have just been "catching a ride". On this first trip to New York MAXWELL and EPSTEIN picked out an outfit for her which was comprised of penny loafers, a Ralph Lauren sweater and plaid pants. EFTA00153674 was asked if she recalls a flight she took from Florida to New York on a Monday. She says that this doesn't stick out in her mind specifically. EPSTEIN did not typically want to miss school. is asked about a flight from New Mexico to Florida that she took in 2001. states that this is probably the last time she saw him. It was shortly after this that she had "that boyfriend". At the time she was living in Los Angeles. She may have had time off from work to be able to travel. would typically get a few weeks off from shooting for the TV show around holidays. EPSTEIN was coming to Los Angeles with a bunch of people and told she had to come with him on this trip. felt she was being treated as an adult that doesn't need to get involved anymore. They flew to New Mexico from Los Angeles on his jet, or perhaps a charter BJOLRIN is not sure. Then the flow from New Mexico to Florida. feels as though EPSTEIN may have been showing her off. They only spent about a day in New Mexico and then about 2 days in Florida. After this trip flew back to Los Angeles on her own. was then asked if she knows the following persons: HENRY GEREKY? —sounds familiar MARIA MINSKY? —no EFTA00153675 was asked about a flight that she was on in May of 1998 from Florida to New York. She was asked if the following persons were on this flight: ? —maybe ? —yes, I think so. then states that she liked—. They hung out and she was nice. thought she was so cool. MICHELLE was a friend o1 and they would all sometimes go out drinking together. MICHELLE introduced to the drink the White Russian. was involved in the sexual conduct with EPSTEIN. MICHELLE may have worked for EPSTEIN's company and not sure if she was involved in the abuse. took orders sexually from both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. had very large, nice and impressive breasts that recalls seeing. This happened in either Florida or New York. MAXWELL tells she is told. what to do but is not exactly sure what is asked if MAXWELL would tell her what to do. thinks she may have coached or taught her what to do. is asked how specific were the instructions given to her. believes the instructions were given physically and not as much verbally. She was guided as to where on EPSTEIN' body she should massage. is asked if MAXWELL was present for the "4 options" (masturbation, hand job, oral sex and sex) that EPSTEIN would do with other women in the massage room and EFTA00153676 answers yes. is then asked if MAXWELL was present for when any of these "4 options" were performed on her and she responded "I can't remember". MAXWELL's roll was to normalize it all. MAXWELL wouldn't talk about the sex acts before or after. In the beginning was on the foot massage duty so she could watch and learn how to do all the other stuff. was asked if MAXWELL knew that EPSTEIN was having sex with her and she responds yes. MAXWELL was witness to all the instances that happened in the room. MAXWELL was never present when EPSTEIN had sex with cannot remember if MAXWELL was ever present for instances of oral sex or hand jobs with EPSTEIN and recalls that MAXWELL was present for when was pinching EPSTEIN's nipples while he masturbated. At this time EPSTEIN was touching on her breasts and her butt, although she does not recall if EPSTEIN touched her vagina at this time. MAXWELL may have been present when EPSTEIN used a vibrator on vagina. MAXWELL may have given a vibrator in a box for Christmas. threw it out because she was living at home, was in high school and was embarrassed. This happened while she was either living in Palm Beach or New York. was asked if MAXWELL ever touched or kissed her to which she answers "I don't think so". says "know EFTA00153677 your audience" on why MAXWELL may have kissed other girls and not . Certain girls didn't have a problem with it as much as some other girls. This may have been based on their sexual experiences, background and willingness. EPSTEIN was mildly sexual with in front of other people, including MAXWELL. Maybe at most put her hand on his penis. MAXWELL bragged about who she dated and her conquests. MAXWELL was the female version of EPSTEIN. MAXWELL talked about her sexual interactions with other people but not about her sexual interactions with EPSTEIN. did not notice any sexual energy between EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. They seemed to be like partners in crime. MAXWELL in general would be direct, although cannot remember specifics. was asked about the New Mexico trips she took and if she recalls and specific abuse that occurred there to which she answers she does not remember. MAXWELL would have been present for oral sex that occurred with other individuals, yes. is not sure, but its possible that MAXWELL was present for oral sex with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL was present for occasions in with Florida and New York in which others performed oral sex on EPSTEIN. recalls a group massage instance that occurred at shutters on the beach in California. One of the girls gets upset EFTA00153678 and does not want to give a massage. She cries because she has a boyfriend. MAXWELL was not present for this. There may have been another incident in which a girl got upset or was apprehensive about getting involved with the massages. met HARVEY WEINSTEIN at a golden globes party while with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN introduces to WEINSTEIN and states "hands off my girl". EPSTEIN and WEINSTEIN laugh. is asked about Interlochen, and how she turned 14 that summer that she met EPSTEIN while attending the academy. She is asked is it possible that she met EPSTEIN after she turned 14 to which she responds yes. states she based meeting him at 13 years old because it was the summer and she was at summer camp. Her birthday is in August and she thought that it was before her birthday. She was still living in Florida and still 14 years old when a fair amount of the abuse happened to her. At some point MAXWELL and EPSTEIN came to house prior to the abuse. While still 14 has the interaction with the photographer. is 14 when the group massage abuse happens involving MAXWELL. While still 14 the pace of things moved fairly quickly with EPSTEIN. touched EPSTEIN's penis right after the pool house visit. It started to be expected that something always will happen when would go to visit EPSTEIN. MAXWELL was usually present for this in the beginning. EFTA00153679 EPSTEIN would usually just grab with me" when he was going to abuse her. and say "come was asked if MAXWELL would ever follow her up with EPSTEIN when the abuse occurred. says probably about once. There were times when MAXWELL was present and EPSTEIN took for abuse upstairs. There were also times where MAXWELL told that EPSTEIN "wants to see you" which then lead to abuse. There were times when was directed to the massage room by MAXWELL when there was someone else already there. Oral sex with EPSTEIN took about a year to happen. This happened when they were still in Florida. was 18 while attending the professional children's school. The rape incident happened in New York. is not sure where she was living at the time. thinks she was staying with EPSTEIN though at the time. She was visiting him and recalls going back to her room after the incident. did have a pregnancy concerns. did not talk to anyone about this. At one time did not have her period for about 6 months so she bought a pregnancy test. EPSTEIN never used protection and was not on birth control. This type of assault (rape) continued while was living in New York (45 Wall Street). is not sure if MAXWELL or EPSTEIN ever visited her while she lived there. They visited 1-2 times at her house in Florida. This was EFTA00153680 about a year or 2 after meeting him. From when met EPSTEIN to when she moved to New York she lived in the same house in Florida. This house was in a gated community called "Bear Lakes". It was a 3-bedroom house. During the summer of 1994, 1995 and 1996 attended Interlochen summer camp. During the summer of 1997 she attended Tanglewood summer camp outside of Boston. The summer before her senior year (1998) spent all in New York. She was 17 going on 18 years old this summer. stayed in one of EPSTEIN's apartments during this summer. She also stayed in his mansion for a bit before moving into 45 Wall Street prior to her starting school. This summer it was her responsibility to find her and her other a place to stay. was not sure if EPSTEIN was going to pay for this apartment or not. She just looked for the cheapest place to live that had 2 bedrooms. Eventually tells EPSTEIN that she found an apartment. is not sure how she found this. EPSTEIN may have had someone help her out but she's not sure. is asked about the Miss Teen USA pageant she participated in. states that her mother forced her to do this and she didn't want to. A Swedish friend of mother helped with this. She was a modelling agent in Florida. This pageant was not EPSTEIN related. recalls this happened prior to her senior year. She remembers dress shopping with her mother in Palm Beach. They bought a dress EFTA00153681 and hated it. is asked if she recalls her sister helping with this at all to which she says no. recalls meeting her sister in New York at some point. Her sister came to EPSTEIN's mansion. Her sister wasn't really around much at the time. She is 10 years older than and had 3 kids at the time and lived in Boston. does not remember the context of her sisters visit to EPSTEIN's mansion. is asked about MAXWELL making threats. states that these were scolding, stern phone calls for being ungrateful. MAXWELL would set up appointments and make travel arrangements. She would talk about when and how they would travel. MAXWELL would discuss logistics. She would make travel arrangements for commercial flights that would take. would hear MAXWELL on the phone booking flights. She's not sure exactly who MAXWELL was talking to but she did make these calls. MAXWELL would talk to about upcoming trips. does not recall word for word what these conversations were. is asked if she recalls when travelling from one place to another did sexual abuse occur on the other end and she responds but stating "yes". states that it always occurred on the other end. There was maybe 1-2 times that it did not occur. is asked if during her first trip to New York, did abuse happen and she responds "yes but I don't specifically remember that abuse". is not sure how she got back EFTA00153682 home the first time. is she recalls having any particular feelings on her first trip home from New York and she states not that she recalls. is asked if there are any times that when leaving New York that she felt relieved to which she states "every time". states that generally every time she traveled with them she was abused. Both 1 on 1 and in groups. MAXWELL was involved in the group sex that occurred in New York. is asked about the incident in which EPSTEIN was touching her breasts with MAXWELL present, and if she recalls where that happened. states that it may have happened in Florida. is asked about when things escalated to oral sex recalls that that started with the 1 on 1 with EPSTEIN. incidents. MAXWELL did not discuss the abuse afterwards, or ask how it was. was asked about a TRUMP allegation of sexual abuse. states no. There was some picture circulating of with a different name associated with it saying that she was a victim of TRUMP but this was not true. states that at first she was not afraid of EPSTEIN. Once she broke free from him was not sure what he would do. After breaking free from him she did not learn of any additional victims of his. EFTA00153683 recalls reading some things about girls disappearing but this turned out to be hearsay from attorney. EFTA00153684